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--></style></head><body lang=ES link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>And for clarity, no RIR (including RIPE NCC) used voting for matters that belong to PDP decisions.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I think there is some confusion here, may be something taken out of context, not sure what is the issue, but a PDP matter that is decided by consensus hasn’t been decided by members voting.</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Hi Andrew,<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>On Sun, Aug 1, 2021 at 11:30 PM Andrew Alston <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><snip><o:p></o:p></p></div><div id="gmail-m_-2314872377398081770ms-outlook-mobile-signature"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-2314872377398081770id-91faeadf-ace4-482d-a015-eb5c6302d8f5"><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>> It remains Andrew's personal opinion and not the consensus of 75% of the membership base. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Can I suggest as a compromise position we then test this theory by putting the question of transfers to a member vote passed or failed by simple majority?<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt;text-align:justify'>Seeing that policy development is a matter of the PDWG community as CPM and Bylaws section 11.3), the majority membership dont have powers to do so and I was teasing Owen with that 75% and since the Bylaws amendment of 2020 in section 11.5) i and ii, not even the board has powers anymore to enforce any policy without the endorsement and consensus of the PDWG community. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><div id="gmail-m_-2314872377398081770id-91faeadf-ace4-482d-a015-eb5c6302d8f5"><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>This worked for ripe with rpki when they took it to a members vote outside of the pdp… why not here?<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>What worked in RIPE does not necessarily have to work here and we have shared the same sentiments with Jordi within the PDWG discussions.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Noah<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>_______________________________________________ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss <o:p></o:p></p></div><br>**********************************************<br>
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