<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Hi Sylvain,<div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Aug 1, 2021 at 4:19 AM Sylvain Baya <<a href="mailto:abscoco@gmail.com">abscoco@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Dear AfriNIC's Community, <br><br>Le vendredi 30 juillet 2021, Ronald F. Guilmette <<a href="mailto:rfg@tristatelogic.com" target="_blank">rfg@tristatelogic.com</a>> a écrit :<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">In message <<a href="mailto:17af40726bd.c1a468ac340728.5536230081885576908@africaoncloud.net" target="_blank">17af40726bd.c1a468ac340728.5536230081885576908@africaoncloud.net</a>>, <br>
Paul Wollner <<a href="mailto:paul.wollner@africaoncloud.net" target="_blank">paul.wollner@africaoncloud.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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>I for one call that at this stage, AFRINIC should be seriously looking into<br>
>ways transition it's service to other RIRs to mitigate the risk that<br>
>they have mentioned today to the press.<br>
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Press? What press?<br>
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Well, anyway, we can come back to that later.<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Hi Ronald,</div><div>Thanks for your email, brother!</div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
For now, I just wanted to suggest that before we call the undertaker and<br>
florist and start ordering the funeral arrangements, maybe Paul could<br>
answer a simple question for me...<br>
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Spcifically, I am hoping that Paul may be able to tell us all how Cloud<br>
Innovantion's actions... at least the ones that are not disputed in any<br>
way... comport with the plain language of Section 4(c)(i) of the AFRINIC<br>
Registration Services Agreement (RSA):<br>
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<a href="https://afrinic.net/ast/pdf/services/afrinic-rsa-en-201801.pdf" target="_blank">https://afrinic.net/ast/pdf/services/afrinic-rsa-en-201801.pdf</a><br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>~°~</div><div>[...]</div><div><div>4. Conditions of service</div><div>(a) Where a member, receiving service under an existing agreement applies for a change or a variation of the </div><div>type of such service which AFRINIC has been supplying to it, evaluation of such a “change request” will be effected in </div><div>terms of the provisions of clause (2) of the present agreement.</div><div>(b) <b><font color="#000000">Cooperation</font></b>:</div><div><b>(i) An applicant receiving service under an agreement is at all times bound to provide to AFRINIC such </b></div><div><b>information, assistance and cooperation as may be reasonably required by the latter in the provision </b></div><div><b>of the service.</b></div><div><b>(ii) Such request for information may also be made where AFRINIC is investigating (reviewing) the </b></div><div><b>applicant’s utilisation of the number resources already assigned to it.</b></div><div>(iii) Failure by the applicant, to comply with a request made at above may:</div><div><b>(1) entail revocation or withholding of the service supplied by AFRINIC;</b></div></div></blockquote><div> </div><div>The above section 4 of the AFRINIC RSA is very important and provides the context in sub-section b (i) and (ii) </div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><br></div><div>...Ronald, please, see here [1] for *the purpose* :'-(</div><div>__</div><div>[1]: <<a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2021-July/004137.html" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2021-July/004137.html</a>></div><div><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Others should as well....</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
Paul, if you would be so kind, that would be most enlightening.<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>...maybe not him? any other might want to take this</div><div> opportunity to try to continue to mis-inform us </div><div>that the RSA and the Bylaws are not useful documents</div><div> for Ressource Members; and that only the CPM is :'-(</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Ofcourse Paul would have you believe the Bylaws are not useful yet in the Bylaws section 6 here; <a href="https://www.afrinic.net/bylaws#b20-6">https://www.afrinic.net/bylaws#b20-6</a> states clearly that;</div><div><br></div><div>6) <b>MEMBERSHIP</b><br><b>6.1) Subject to the other provisions of this Article, membership shall be open to:</b></div><div><br></div><div>(i) any Person who is <b>geographically</b> <b>based within,</b> and <b>providing services in the African region</b>, and who is engaged in the use of, or <b>business of providing, open system protocol network services; or </b></div><div><b><br></b></div><div>The AFRINIC RSA agreement comes into play because of the above provision so as to cement the relationship between AFRINIC and the Member.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Noah <br></div></div></div>