Dear AfriNIC's Community,<div><br></div><div>Please see my comments below, inline...<br><br>Le mercredi 28 juillet 2021, Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss <<a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a>> a écrit :<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
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> On Jul 27, 2021, at 12:30 , JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss <<a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a><wbr>> wrote:<br>
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> This will be very simple to resolve (not taking a position in one side or the other because I don't have all the real facts and documents).<br>
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> The original justificacion of the request of the resources I don't think it had so many "secret" and "confidential" details. After several years if any "secrets" were there, probably aren't longer something that can't published now.<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>How come that INRs management becomes a </div><div>matter of such secrets?</div><div><br></div><div>Please Jordi or any other volunteer, let me know if </div><div>you are willing to contribute to draft a DPP to </div><div>remove the possibility of keeping such, apparently, </div><div>unjustified secrets.</div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
We have already agreed that the original justification is no longer relevant and that, like any ISP in business for more than 8 years, things have changed and we have adapted.<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Dear Owen,</div><div><br></div><div>...strange! is/was it an adaptation for the good of </div><div>the AfriNIC's service region?</div><div><br></div><div>Please, could you enlightenned us on those </div><div>interesting details?</div><div><br></div><div>...moving 90% of INRs out of the AfriNIC's service </div><div>region, without any Inter RIR transfer policy, seems </div><div>to be your best way to support the grow of this RIR </div><div>region.</div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
> So why not CI, voluntarely publish that information? I don't have any stance on this game, but if I was CI, this will be the best way to probe my points.<br>
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Because it is no longer relevant.<br>
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> Otherwise, I will suggest that AFRINIC asks the court to incorporate that in the proceedings if is not there already, this way, whatever is the result of the case, everybody will know it. At least in the countries I know, the results of the cases are public, as well as the documents that were incorporated during all the process: transparency.<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Jordi, maybe it's simply time to stop allowing such </div><div>secrets.</div><div> </div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
In reality, even if a curative submission is required (if the last filed justification to which I do not have access, TBH), I would suggest they simply modify their justification to the following:<br>
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We will use the addresses to number internet connected hosts on our own infrastructure and on our customers’ networks.<br>
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This is a justification which meets the letter of the law of the policy and which does not preclude leasing.</blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Owen,</div><div>...are you considering the notions of *conservation*</div><div> and *reservations*?</div><div><br></div><div>Knowing the understanding of the current </div><div>implementers of the CPM, it's clear that one shall </div><div>need to submit a convincing addressing plan </div><div>before receiving any INR allocation.</div><div><br></div><div>Shalom, </div><div>--sb.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Owen<br>[...]
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