<div dir="auto">Leo,<div dir="auto">There is no wasting time here. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">This is a genuine cause.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I appreciate your support.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Daniel</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 28, 2021, 8:19 PM Leo S <<a href="mailto:leoso@afcast.com">leoso@afcast.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Thanks<div>I will be back in my life and will not waste time here.<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 12:21 AM AFRINIC Communication <<a href="mailto:comms@afrinic.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">comms@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Mr Leo,<div><br></div><div>Please refrain from making a personal attack on this mailing list.</div><div><br></div><div>Please consider this email as a first warning.</div><div><br></div><div>We shall be obliged to moderate your emails should you continue with such comments.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>AFRINIC Communications <br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 28 Jul 2021, at 15:43, Leo S <<a href="mailto:leoso@afcast.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">leoso@afcast.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div dir="ltr">Yes I agree It's just that the management of AFRINIC may have changed with previous years.<div>Although some people in the community questioned Cloud Innovation Ltd in the past few years, AFRINIC did not take any action, but now it has taken action. Maybe Cloud Innovation Ltd did not use their money well. Lead to the current ending, Cloud Innovation Ltd losing ground in management team of AFRINIC<div><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 5:31 PM Ali Hussein <<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">It is a political game. Hence my post of yesterday. This is a wider conversation about African Internet Resources and who controls them. Let's be very careful not to be looped into non-issues. The MOST IMPORTANT conversation we MUST have is this:-</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">1. Who controls AFRINIC today.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">2. Who will control it tomorrow.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">3. Who is out to ensure that Board Members are aligned to which grouping. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">4. Who are these groups?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">5. Corporate Governance is a major issue here. Whilst I believe this is being handled and that it's a process we must be clear going forward that shedding light on all matters is super-critical. Light has a way of removing all crawling things out of the shadows and into the light. The Board's Fiduciary Responsibility has never been more important than ever. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><b><font face="georgia, serif" size="2">Ali
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<span style="font-family:"Baskerville Old Face",serif"></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 9:46 AM Leo S <<a href="mailto:leoso@afcast.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">leoso@afcast.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Very funny, it looks like a political game<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 2:33 PM Noah <<a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">noah@neo.co.tz</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 6:43 PM Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss <<a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Jul 27, 2021, at 00:35, Omo Oaiya <<a href="mailto:Omo.Oaiya@wacren.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">Omo.Oaiya@wacren.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div dir="auto"><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 27 Jul 2021, at 07:54, Ronald F. Guilmette <<a href="mailto:rfg@tristatelogic.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">rfg@tristatelogic.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">In any case, the data at the link above demonstrates quite persuasively that</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">there *is* some finite non-zero business relationship between Africa on Cloud</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">on the one hand and Cloud Innovation on the other hand. I personally have</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">no idea what that relationship is, or what it may signify, and thus I</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">personally do not care to jump to any specific conclusion about that</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">relationship, or its possible significance or insignificance. But to try</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">to deny that there exists -any- relationship whatsoever, in spite of the</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">clear evidence, is worse than disingenuous. It is silly.</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote>I did not deny that a relationship exists. I pointed out that there is no evidence presented to indicate that it is anything more than customer/supplier. </div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>In the last board elections where Elkins defeated Paul Wolner, there were multiple resource members who received phone calls from HongKong asking them to vote for Wolner. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Check the archives.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Noah</div></div></div></div>
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