<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">It is good to see AFRINIC doing it job appropriately for once.<div>It has been a long while!!!</div><div><br><div>The personal attacks and name calling are totally unnecessary. </div><div>Sorry I just had to add d last icing on the cake. </div><div><br><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Jul 26, 2021, at 13:49, AFRINIC Communication <comms@afrinic.net> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">Dear Colleagues,<br class=""><br class="">We kindly ask you all to refrain from continuing with this thread as it seems to be mostly geared towards personal attacks.<br class=""><br class="">Regardless of the motive, AFRINIC may be forced to issue warnings to those who do not comply and choose to ignore this message.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Also please refer to the email sent this morning on the AFRINIC Code of Conduct: </div><div class=""><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2021-July/004278.html" class="">https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2021-July/004278.html</a><br class=""><br class="">Regards<br class="">AFRINIC Communications<br class=""><br class="">…………………………………………………………<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Chers collègues,<br class=""><br class="">Nous vous invitons à vous abstenir de poursuivre ce fil de discussion, car il semble être principalement orienté vers des attaques personnelles.<br class=""><br class="">Quel qu'en soit le motif, l'AFRINIC pourrait être contrainte d'émettre des avertissements à ceux qui ne se conforment pas et choisissent d'ignorer ce message.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Veuillez également vous référer à l'email que nous avons envoyé ce matin sur le code de conduite de l'AFRINIC : <a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2021-July/004278.html" class="">https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2021-July/004278.html</a><br class=""><br class="">Cordialement,<br class="">AFRINIC Communications</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 26 Jul 2021, at 15:39, Anthony Ubah <<a href="mailto:ubah.tonyiyke@gmail.com" class="">ubah.tonyiyke@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Dear Leo S,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">You are churning out awesome figures here, unarguably so. However, I wish you can spare some time to responded to my question on motive.</div><div class="">While this is all now glaring, it is important to know if you are here shedding light, providing heat, or fanning smokes into our eyes? <br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">You seem to be baiting the community with your posts. <b class=""><i class="">"This is good news for ISPs who rent IP from them, No need to change the IP address for the end user."</i></b></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><b style="line-height:150%;font-size:12.8px" class=""><span style="line-height:150%" class=""><font face="garamond, serif" class=""><br class=""></font></span></b></div><div class=""><b style="line-height:150%;font-size:12.8px" class=""><span style="line-height:150%" class=""><font face="garamond, serif" class="">Regards,</font></span></b><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><p style="line-height:150%" class=""><font face="garamond, times new roman, serif" class=""><b class=""><span style="line-height:150%;font-size:12.8px" class=""><span style="line-height:150%" class="">Anthony</span></span></b></font></p><p style="line-height:150%" class=""><span style="color:rgb(215,58,73);font-family:monospace,monospace;font-size:12.8px;background-color:rgb(251,251,251)" class=""><br class=""></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><br class=""></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 4:01 AM Leo S <<a href="mailto:leoso@afcast.com" class="">leoso@afcast.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">These addresses are worth more than 100 million US dollars. If the address is revoked. For them, they will face a loss of 90% of their income Forced to close business. They will go all out, For Cloud Innovation Ltd, this is more than 100 million US dollars in cash. For AFRINIC it's a mere $10,000 USD. Actions that can be taken in the face of such a large amount of money so I think AFRINIC may fail finally or compromise.<br class=""><br class="">This is good news for ISPs who rent IP from them, No need to change the IP address for the end user.<br class=""></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 11:30 AM Ibeanusi Elvis <<a href="mailto:ibeanusielvis@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">ibeanusielvis@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hello, <br class="">
<br class="">
This is information of whatever anyone might choose to call it from Leo, shades no light to present discussion at hand.<br class="">
To me, this is a clear defamation and personal attack to this "Lu Heng” guy. <br class="">
This is a clear violation of the Code of Conduct and there should be no question whether this is a personal attack or not. <br class="">
<br class="">
Best, <br class="">
Elvis.<br class="">
<br class="">
> On Jul 26, 2021, at 11:04, Ronald F. Guilmette <<a href="mailto:rfg@tristatelogic.com" target="_blank" class="">rfg@tristatelogic.com</a>> wrote:<br class="">
> <br class="">
> In message <<a href="mailto:CAKKt%2BfDLeYDt7jQVMVSrUuH5OUhL4XvvPb1bbiKSCx5wocguYg@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">CAKKt+fDLeYDt7jQVMVSrUuH5OUhL4XvvPb1bbiKSCx5wocguYg@mail.gmail.com</a>><br class="">
> Wijdane Goubi <<a href="mailto:goubi.wijdane@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">goubi.wijdane@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class="">
> <br class="">
>> *He also plundered tens of thousands of IP addresses from RIPE and A few<br class="">
>> years later sold to vodafone and earned millions of dollars. He is smart<br class="">
>> and knows who should pay the money to.<br class="">
>> <br class="">
>>> Leo's statement here hints that this guy called Lu Heng has engaged in<br class="">
>> some sort of bribing. How is this not personal attack defamation?<br class="">
> <br class="">
> I am forced to agree that Leo's second sentence, as quoted above, contitutes<br class="">
> "casting aspersions" and in the absence of hard supporting evidence it was<br class="">
> inappropriate, uncalled for, and contributed only heat and no light to<br class="">
> the present discussion.<br class="">
> <br class="">
> I made the exact same sort of mistake myself, right here on this mailing<br class="">
> list, back in 2016, and later publicly apologized for that. Perhaps that<br class="">
> explains why I am less inclined that others to make a huge issue out of<br class="">
> such utterances when they are made in the heat of the moment and without<br class="">
> adequate thought.<br class="">
> <br class="">
> I think that it should be sufficient to politely ask Leo to retract that<br class="">
> one sentence, to apologize, and then let it go at that. We already have<br class="">
> more than enough wars to fight, tribal and otherwise, and we shouldn't be<br class="">
> looking for reasons to start up new ones just based on this or that<br class="">
> ill-considered statement that may be made by any of us during those times<br class="">
> when our passions override our reason.<br class="">
> <br class="">
> <br class="">
> Regards,<br class="">
> rfg<br class="">
> <br class="">
> <br class="">
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