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<div dir="ltr">I’m a little confused - can you clarify which part of what post is a personal attack - there are multiple posts in this thread. The statement about people don’t wanting africa to succeed would be my guess but I wanna be sure</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, July 25, 2021 7:16:12 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Leo S <leoso@afcast.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Community Discuss <community-discuss@afrinic.net><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Community-Discuss] Share About Cloud Innovation Ltd and their business</font>
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<span lang="EN-US">This is a blatant personal attack, and I'm still baffled as to why such attacks are still tolerated. As a result, I'm asking the board to remove this, and I'm asking the community to address similar behaviors when people are attacked in their
person.</span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">Continuing to engage in such actions is both urgent and dangerous; it only serves to hold us back as a community. Therefore, I urge the community to call out those who engage in such behaviors and work together to make this community a better
place for all of us.</span></p>
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<div dir="ltr">Sorry I know I said something bad for Cloud Innovation Ltd, but this is the truth. If they want to sue me, there is no problem, please come to Myanmar.<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="x_gmail_attr">On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 11:53 PM Meriem Dayday <<a href="mailto:meriemdayday@gmail.com" target="_blank">meriemdayday@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">This is a direct violation of the CoC. </div>
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<div dir="auto">Disclosing such information and data without the company’s consent is a clear attempt of defamation and can have legal consequences on the concerned person. </div>
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<div dir="auto">Having a business or other relationship with the said company does not give you the right to divulge such details on a public mailing list. That is quite appalling.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Please refrain from violating the CoC and attacking entities in such manner. It can only be troublesome. </div>
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<div dir="auto">I am urging the PDWG chairs to act immediately by sanctioning the sender and deleting this delicate email from the list. </div>
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<div dir="auto">Best, </div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="x_gmail_attr">Le dim. 25 juil. 2021 à 15:39, Leo S <<a href="mailto:leoso@afcast.com" target="_blank">leoso@afcast.com</a>> a écrit :<br>
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<div dir="ltr"><span id="x_gmail-m_609999221298887420gmail-m_8502538520187847982m_5096360875691556503gmail-docs-internal-guid-944d8fd1-7fff-437a-59f9-cdd5d026d86d">
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38; margin-top:0pt; margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; font-variant-numeric:normal; font-variant-east-asian:normal; vertical-align:baseline; white-space:pre-wrap; background-color:transparent; color:rgb(0,0,0)">About
Cloud Innovation Ltd I want to talk about their business model.</span></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38; margin-top:0pt; margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; font-variant-numeric:normal; font-variant-east-asian:normal; vertical-align:baseline; white-space:pre-wrap; background-color:transparent; color:rgb(0,0,0)">They
got 7 Million IPv4 addresses from AFRINIC at a price of $10,000 USD per year, and then leased them to ISPs or end users at a price of ~2 USD/year/IPv4 (large block in 2018 if Small block may be more expensive maybe $3 USD) and with an annual increase of 15%
fee from the price</span></p>
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<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38; margin-top:0pt; margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; font-variant-numeric:normal; font-variant-east-asian:normal; vertical-align:baseline; white-space:pre-wrap; background-color:transparent; color:rgb(0,0,0)">So
the cost is $10,000 USD</span></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38; margin-top:0pt; margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; font-variant-numeric:normal; font-variant-east-asian:normal; vertical-align:baseline; white-space:pre-wrap; background-color:transparent; color:rgb(0,0,0)">Revenue
is 7M x 2 = 14 Million</span></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38; margin-top:0pt; margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; font-variant-numeric:normal; font-variant-east-asian:normal; vertical-align:baseline; white-space:pre-wrap; background-color:transparent; color:rgb(0,0,0)">so
it’s 150000% profit</span></p>
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<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38; margin-top:0pt; margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; font-variant-numeric:normal; font-variant-east-asian:normal; vertical-align:baseline; white-space:pre-wrap; background-color:transparent; color:rgb(0,0,0)">Part
of the cost is spent on RIR community activities and seeking support from members, and money will be used to defeat those who oppose it. </span></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38; margin-top:0pt; margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; font-variant-numeric:normal; font-variant-east-asian:normal; vertical-align:baseline; white-space:pre-wrap; background-color:transparent; color:rgb(0,0,0)">Are
there any people in the world who don't love money? Those who accept their money will support them in the community. and questioned any action of discussion that would be detrimental to them.</span></p>
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<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38; margin-top:0pt; margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; font-variant-numeric:normal; font-variant-east-asian:normal; vertical-align:baseline; white-space:pre-wrap; background-color:transparent; color:rgb(0,0,0)">Of
course, this is Lu Heng.</span></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38; margin-top:0pt; margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; font-variant-numeric:normal; font-variant-east-asian:normal; vertical-align:baseline; white-space:pre-wrap; background-color:transparent; color:rgb(0,0,0)">He
also plundered tens of thousands of IP addresses from RIPE and A few years later sold to vodafone and earned millions of dollars. He is smart and knows who should pay the money to.</span></p>
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<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38; margin-top:0pt; margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; font-variant-numeric:normal; font-variant-east-asian:normal; vertical-align:baseline; white-space:pre-wrap; background-color:transparent; color:rgb(0,0,0)">To
rent an IP address from Cloud Innovation Ltd, you do not need to use their network services and circuits. Exactly they don't provide network service. and I think 90% of IP addresses are used in North America and Asia</span></p>
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<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38; margin-top:0pt; margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; font-variant-numeric:normal; font-variant-east-asian:normal; vertical-align:baseline; white-space:pre-wrap; background-color:transparent; color:rgb(0,0,0)">I
don't know much about AFRINIC's policy. But in ARIN you must have a circuit or network service then you can rent an IP address from the provider.</span></p>
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<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38; margin-top:0pt; margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; font-variant-numeric:normal; font-variant-east-asian:normal; vertical-align:baseline; white-space:pre-wrap; background-color:transparent; color:rgb(0,0,0)">The
AFRINIC internal audit action may be detrimental to Cloud Innovation Ltd, so they started some network services in South Africa last year as Africa on cloud. but it's a small network. I think the revenue from these services may account for less than 10% of
their revenue. so 90% of their revenue still from IPv4 address leasing business</span></p>
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<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38; margin-top:0pt; margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; font-variant-numeric:normal; font-variant-east-asian:normal; vertical-align:baseline; white-space:pre-wrap; background-color:transparent; color:rgb(0,0,0)">It
can be seen from their income that they have enough money to support the lawsuit against AFRINIC. And spend money in the community to fight for their address not to be revoked.</span></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38; margin-top:0pt; margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; font-variant-numeric:normal; font-variant-east-asian:normal; vertical-align:baseline; white-space:pre-wrap; background-color:transparent; color:rgb(0,0,0)">very
sad AFRINIC is too poor </span></p>
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the way, I was also their customer before</span></p>
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