<div dir="auto">Hi Ronald<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">In short AFRINIC is paving the way and seeks the communities input on how to handle the abandoned space.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">When one attempts a whois query today, you will note a flag which AFRINIC has slapped on most of the legacy space which has since been recovered some of which is under dispute.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">But we have an RIR in AFRINIC which is now trying to do something about it.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I am of the view that we perhaps engage the working group to see if we can work out a policy on how to handle the space and/or getting it into the free pool.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Noah<br><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 10 Feb 2021, 03:31 Ronald F. Guilmette, <<a href="mailto:rfg@tristatelogic.com">rfg@tristatelogic.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">In message <CAEqgTWah944VmGg7iRZ_9qvANgQTZt9QQsr33WjPCkcT+=-<a href="mailto:hqQ@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">hqQ@mail.gmail.com</a>>, <br>
Noah <<a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">noah@neo.co.tz</a>> wrote:<br>
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>While reading the report, I noted that among the recommendations on how to<br>
>make things better, was below.<br>
><br>
> - The report recommends that the AFRINIC community critically assess how<br>
> best the accuracy of the information pertaining to Legacy Resource Holders<br>
> can be improved and considers whether unused legacy resources should be<br>
> left idle while AFRINIC exhausts its remaining pool of IPv4 addresses.<br>
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Please note that this problem... which I personally like to call the<br>
"recycling problem"... is not at all unique to AFRINIC. All five of the<br>
regional internet registries are suffering, to one degree or another,<br>
with the problem of what to do about long-abandoned legacy blocks.<br>
<br>
Although few people know even know about the problem, it is rampant, and<br>
it *is* a real and serious cause for global concern. As I hope everyone<br>
in the AFRINIC region now knows, and as was already evident as far back<br>
as 2008, when I and Brian Krebs reported on the case of the "SF Bay Packet<br>
Radio" abandoned legacy ARIN /16 block, the Internet has become, in effect,<br>
a happy hunting ground for multiple gangs of essentially lawless marauders<br>
who have beo cme focused, quite specifically, on stealing or squatting<br>
specifically on abadonded legacy blocks. And once they have successfully<br>
stolen or squatted on such blocks, these criminal miscreants have proven,<br>
time and time again, that they are not too particular about the kinds of<br>
customers they then lease parts of such pilfered IPv4 space to. The result<br>
is that invariably, these crooks end up leasing their stolen IP space to<br>
yet other criminal enterprises, and that, in turn, endangers us all, we the<br>
global community of honest Internet users.<br>
<br>
Something should most certainly be doen to address this ongoing and recurring<br>
problem. But it is legally somewhat tricky to take back legacy IP space<br>
which is not covered by any contract with any RIR. Still that is no<br>
excuse not to try.<br>
<br>
I have previously put forward the idea that we can and should look to the<br>
well established principals of international maritime law in order to<br>
properly address this problem. Under international maritime law the<br>
concept of abanndoned property, and rights relating to salvage, are<br>
quite well established. It is way past time for the international<br>
internet, and the governance organizations thereof, to grow up, slip out<br>
of their infantile diapers, and for them to create at least some sensible<br>
legal framework and provisions for the recovery of abandoned property,<br>
especially those chunks of long-abandoned property that have long since<br>
become what any lawyer or any sane person would easly recognizes being<br>
an attractive public nuisance. The fact that neither ICANN nor any of<br>
the RIRs has yet even begun this process is a sad commentary on the<br>
current state of "Internet governance", which might more aptly be called<br>
"Internet not-really-benign neglect".<br>
<br>
In short, "leadership" when it comes to Internet governance is, and has<br>
been for many years now, arguably non-existant, at least with respect to<br>
this issue, if not also with respect to many many others.<br>
<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
rfg<br>
<br>
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