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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Jordi,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">“All the involved resource-holders should lose their rights”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">This assumes that the resource-holders who have legitimate rights to the IP space had any awareness of the transfers – which in this case is not reality – the transfers were illegitimate
the IP space was stolen from the resource holders. So – what you are proposing is to penalize those who had resources stolen from them without their consent or knowledge.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I point out that it has already been public acknowledgement over the fact that there are criminal proceedings on going against a former member of staff who was allegedly involved in
the theft of these resources – please – lets not fan the flames by making inflammatory suggestions that don’t take into account all of the facts as currently known.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Andrew<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss <community-discuss@afrinic.net>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 20 August 2020 09:44<br>
<b>To:</b> community-discuss@afrinic.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINC being sued<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">I've some points here:<br>
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1) Were those transfers done following the Intra-RIR policy? Or it happened before that policy existed?<br>
2) Were those transfers inter-RIR?<br>
3) In any case, were those transfers authorized by the staff (according to the CPM)?<br>
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If any of those questions indicate that the CPM has not been followed, all those resources should be claimed back and the involved resource-holders should lose their rights and the membership account closed, right?<br>
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Regards,<br>
Jordi<br>
@jordipalet<br>
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El 19/8/20 23:04, "Ronald F. Guilmette" <<a href="mailto:rfg@tristatelogic.com">rfg@tristatelogic.com</a>> escribió:<br>
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For those few of you who may not already be aware of this...<br>
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<a href="https://mybroadband.co.za/news/internet/363694-man-connected-to-african-ip-address-heist-sues-afrinic.html">https://mybroadband.co.za/news/internet/363694-man-connected-to-african-ip-address-heist-sues-afrinic.html</a><br>
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As many of you might imagine, I will have more to say about this in due<br>
course.<br>
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Regards,<br>
rfg<br>
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