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    <p>I agree with this. We have systems to run electronic voting for
      Board - so this should be scalable for non-board elections as
      well.</p>
    <p>The primary question is - what qualifies a person to vote.</p>
    <p>For this seat and the PDWG - we have traditionally just allowed
      "people in the room". This made sense as if they were in the room
      - they were persons with interest.<br>
      This also made the process quick and simple. We've done all sorts
      of ad-hoc things regarding voting at meetings - so I can't view
      the current "show of hands" or on-site secret ballots as cast in
      rock.<br>
      Again, personally, all votes for all elections should be
      electronic. We are part of the Internet Community working with
      unique identifiers... we are largely technical people.<br>
      We need to retain this concept of "people with interest" so I
      propose anyone who is subscribed to the RPD mailing list (as of
      June 1st 2020) as being eligible to vote.<br>
      <br>
      For the future - we could even have an election mailing list -
      where membership is properly controlled.<br>
    </p>
    <p>Even "those in the room - with a meeting badge" has been I
      believe abused (in Dakar). Our "free" meeting lunches seemed to
      bring in a lot of students with various backgrounds such as hair
      dressers. I do not think that these people have more than a
      fleeting interest in AfriNIC and this should be deterred in all
      future "in the room" elections. How can they objectively vote for
      people <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2020/07/16 14:36, John Ngwoke wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Dear Eddy, All,
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        <div>Since the term of the electing AFRINIC ASO-AC
          representative states these;</div>
        <div> <span style="font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><font
              color="#0000ff">Who can vote?</font></span></div>
        <p style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px 0px
          5px;font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><font
            color="#0000ff">Anyone from the AFRINIC community present at
            the face-to-face meeting who meets the following criteria:</font></p>
        <ul
style="box-sizing:border-box;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:10px;font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;font-size:14px">
          <li style="box-sizing:border-box"><font color="#0000ff">Has
              registered to attend the meeting (must present the meeting
              badge as proof),</font></li>
          <li style="box-sizing:border-box"><font color="#0000ff">Resides
              in a country within the AFRINIC service region and</font></li>
          <li style="box-sizing:border-box"><font color="#0000ff">Is not
              AFRINIC staff.</font></li>
        </ul>
        <div>I suggest the use of an electronic voting system which will
          be made available for only those that registered for the
          meeting and also in attendance.</div>
        <div>However, the issue of concern raised by Jordi on 
          using the subscribers in the RPD mailing list at some point
          before the election process starts (to avoid “lots of friends”
          not really “part of the PDP” to join the day before the
          voting) have to be taken.</div>
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        <div>Concerning the line that says <font color="#0000ff">"voting
            shall be anonymous and done by secret paper ballot",</font>
          the online voting process makes the voting anonymous and
          secret ballot.</div>
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        <div>Thanks</div>
        <div>  <br>
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 at
              10:44, Eddy Kayihura <<a href="mailto:eddy@afrinic.net"
                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">eddy@afrinic.net</a>>
              wrote:<br>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="en-RW">Dear Community
                      Members,<br>
                      <br>
                      The term of the community-elected AFRINIC ASO-AC
                      representative, Noah Maina, ends in December 2020.
                      The election to fill this vacant seat will be held
                      during the Africa Internet Summit 2020 (AIS’20)
                      scheduled for 14-18 September 2020. The election
                      process for the ASO-AC/NRO-NC (please see <a
                        href="https://www.afrinic.net/election-process/aso-nro"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.afrinic.net/election-process/aso-nro</a>
                      for more details) says that voting shall be
                      anonymous and done by secret paper ballot.
                      However, this meeting shall be held online.<br>
                      <br>
                      We are therefore requesting feedback from the
                      community on how AFRINIC can best proceed with the
                      election to fill the vacant seat of one
                      community-elected ASO-AC/NRO-NC member. We shall
                      be delighted to receive your proposals for this
                      important matter</span><span lang="EN-US">.</span><span
                      lang="en-RW"><br>
                      <br>
                      Regards,<br>
                      <br>
                      Eddy<br>
                      <br>
                         ……………………...<br>
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                      Chers membres de la Communauté,<br>
                      <br>
                      Le mandat du représentant de l'ASO-AC d'AFRINIC
                      élu par la communauté, Noah Maina, se termine en
                      décembre 2020. L'élection pour pourvoir ce siège
                      vacant aura lieu lors du Sommet Africain de
                      l'Internet 2020 (AIS'20) prévu du 14 au 18
                      septembre 2020. Le processus d'élection de
                      l'ASO-AC/NRO-NC (voir <a
                        href="https://www.afrinic.net/election-process/aso-nro"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.afrinic.net/election-process/aso-nro</a>
                      pour plus de détails) prévoit que le vote sera
                      anonyme et se fera par bulletin secret. Toutefois,
                      il se déroulera en ligne.<br>
                      <br>
                      Nous demandons donc à la communauté de nous faire
                      part de ses commentaires sur la meilleure façon
                      pour AFRINIC de procéder à l'élection pour
                      pourvoir le siège vacant d'un membre de
                      l'ASO-AC/NRO-NC élu par la communauté. Nous serons
                      ravis de recevoir vos propositions sur cette
                      importante question.<br>
                      <br>
                      Cordialement,<br>
                      <br>
                      Eddy<br>
                      <br>
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