<div dir="ltr">Mark, be nice. <div><br></div><div>I like hairdressers...especially if they are voting for me ;-)<div><br></div><div>walu.</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 3:50 PM Mark Elkins <<a href="mailto:mje@posix.co.za">mje@posix.co.za</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>I agree with this. We have systems to run electronic voting for
Board - so this should be scalable for non-board elections as
well.</p>
<p>The primary question is - what qualifies a person to vote.</p>
<p>For this seat and the PDWG - we have traditionally just allowed
"people in the room". This made sense as if they were in the room
- they were persons with interest.<br>
This also made the process quick and simple. We've done all sorts
of ad-hoc things regarding voting at meetings - so I can't view
the current "show of hands" or on-site secret ballots as cast in
rock.<br>
Again, personally, all votes for all elections should be
electronic. We are part of the Internet Community working with
unique identifiers... we are largely technical people.<br>
We need to retain this concept of "people with interest" so I
propose anyone who is subscribed to the RPD mailing list (as of
June 1st 2020) as being eligible to vote.<br>
<br>
For the future - we could even have an election mailing list -
where membership is properly controlled.<br>
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<p>Even "those in the room - with a meeting badge" has been I
believe abused (in Dakar). Our "free" meeting lunches seemed to
bring in a lot of students with various backgrounds such as hair
dressers. I do not think that these people have more than a
fleeting interest in AfriNIC and this should be deterred in all
future "in the room" elections. How can they objectively vote for
people <br>
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<div dir="ltr">Dear Eddy, All,
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<div>Since the term of the electing AFRINIC ASO-AC
representative states these;</div>
<div> <span style="font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><font color="#0000ff">Who can vote?</font></span></div>
<p style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px 0px 5px;font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><font color="#0000ff">Anyone from the AFRINIC community present at
the face-to-face meeting who meets the following criteria:</font></p>
<ul style="box-sizing:border-box;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:10px;font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;font-size:14px">
<li style="box-sizing:border-box"><font color="#0000ff">Has
registered to attend the meeting (must present the meeting
badge as proof),</font></li>
<li style="box-sizing:border-box"><font color="#0000ff">Resides
in a country within the AFRINIC service region and</font></li>
<li style="box-sizing:border-box"><font color="#0000ff">Is not
AFRINIC staff.</font></li>
</ul>
<div>I suggest the use of an electronic voting system which will
be made available for only those that registered for the
meeting and also in attendance.</div>
<div>However, the issue of concern raised by Jordi on
using the subscribers in the RPD mailing list at some point
before the election process starts (to avoid “lots of friends”
not really “part of the PDP” to join the day before the
voting) have to be taken.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>Concerning the line that says <font color="#0000ff">"voting
shall be anonymous and done by secret paper ballot",</font>
the online voting process makes the voting anonymous and
secret ballot.</div>
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<div>Thanks</div>
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Members,<br>
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The term of the community-elected AFRINIC ASO-AC
representative, Noah Maina, ends in December 2020.
The election to fill this vacant seat will be held
during the Africa Internet Summit 2020 (AIS’20)
scheduled for 14-18 September 2020. The election
process for the ASO-AC/NRO-NC (please see <a href="https://www.afrinic.net/election-process/aso-nro" target="_blank">https://www.afrinic.net/election-process/aso-nro</a>
for more details) says that voting shall be
anonymous and done by secret paper ballot.
However, this meeting shall be held online.<br>
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We are therefore requesting feedback from the
community on how AFRINIC can best proceed with the
election to fill the vacant seat of one
community-elected ASO-AC/NRO-NC member. We shall
be delighted to receive your proposals for this
important matter</span><span lang="EN-US">.</span><span lang="en-RW"><br>
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Eddy<br>
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Chers membres de la Communauté,<br>
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Le mandat du représentant de l'ASO-AC d'AFRINIC
élu par la communauté, Noah Maina, se termine en
décembre 2020. L'élection pour pourvoir ce siège
vacant aura lieu lors du Sommet Africain de
l'Internet 2020 (AIS'20) prévu du 14 au 18
septembre 2020. Le processus d'élection de
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anonyme et se fera par bulletin secret. Toutefois,
il se déroulera en ligne.<br>
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Nous demandons donc à la communauté de nous faire
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pour AFRINIC de procéder à l'élection pour
pourvoir le siège vacant d'un membre de
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Cordialement,<br>
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