Hi all,<br><br>Le jeudi 5 décembre 2019, Mark Elkins <<a href="mailto:mje@posix.co.za" target="_blank">mje@posix.co.za</a>> a écrit :<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>Totally agree with you Mike. It should have been almost
      impossible to manipulate the non-legacy space - </p></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Dear Mark,</div><div>...i agree !</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><p>yet it happened.
      In this case (looting of non-legacy space), the RSA has meant
      nothing.<br>
    </p></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>As you say, i take you on words ; then if the RSA (Registration Service Agreement) could </div><div>easily be bypassed, how to deal with our 'emerged' problem ?</div><div><br></div><div>...perhaps time to seriously reconsider the long life DPP (Draft Policy Proposal) [1] ?</div><div>__</div><div>[1]: <<a href="https://afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2016-gen-001-d8/amp" target="_blank">https://afrinic.net/policy/<wbr>proposals/2016-gen-001-d8/amp</a>></div><div><br></div><div>Shalom,</div><div>--sb.</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
    <div>On 2019/12/05 14:46, Mike Silber wrote:<br>
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      Be that as it may - that seems to ignore the fact that there
      appears to have been significant malfeasance regarding non-legacy
      space.
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      <div>I just want to ensure that we maintain a balanced
        view of the problem and not deflect it to focus only on the
        legacy space issue.<br>
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        <div>It terms of priorities - it would make sense to me
          to focus on how space that should have been subject to the RSA
          has been mis-appropriated and then turn to the more difficult
          question of legacy space. If the current processes are open to
          abuse, then moving legacy space under those processes may not
          have the desired outcome. </div>
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              <div>On 5 Dec 2019, at 14:27, Mark Tinka <<a href="mailto:mark.tinka@seacom.mu" target="_blank">mark.tinka@seacom.mu</a>>
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                <div> <font face="Tahoma">Completely
                    agree with Sunday.<br>
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                    Mark.<br>
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                  <div>On 5/Dec/19 13:02, Sunday
                    Folayan wrote:<br>
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                  <blockquote type="cite">Isn't it time to address Legacy space
                    issues, specifically ancient squatters on spaces
                    meant to develop the Internet in Africa, AfriNIC
                    Services and bringing legacy spaces under some form
                    of RSA? <br>
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                    I urge the community to think beyond the sensation
                    and let us see how to help and empower the people
                    doing useful work for Africa. <br>
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                    Thanks. <br>
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                    Sunday. <br>
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                    On 04/12/2019 6:23 PM, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: <br>
                    <blockquote type="cite">I hope you all will
                      take the time to read and think about the
                      following <br>
                      news story. <br>
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                      <a href="https://mybroadband.co.za/news/internet/330379-how-internet-resources-worth-r800-million-were-stolen-and-sold-on-the-black-market.html" target="_blank">https://mybroadband.co.za/news<wbr>/internet/330379-how-internet-<wbr>resources-worth-r800-million-w<wbr>ere-stolen-and-sold-on-the-bla<wbr>ck-market.html</a>
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                        I will have more to say about this in due
                      course.  For the moment, I only <br>
                      wish to say that the investigation undertaken by
                      myself and Jan Vermeulen <br>
                      is ongoing, and that many others are provably
                      involved. <br>
                          Regards, <br>
                      rfg <br>
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