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    <p>It is a shame that the system was exploited. I did not in anyway
      suggest that the malfeasance be ignored, or that we should focus
      only on legacy space.<br>
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    <p>The community has been informed that there is already some
      internal investigations ongoing. We should give AFRINIC the time
      to get things done. I equally expect that if criminal actions and
      intentions are established, the law should take its course and
      people should stand accountable for their deeds.</p>
    <p>I query the suitability of a system, where existing or moribund
      organizations' IP resources are stolen/hijacked/leased for upwards
      of 7 years, and it took this level of cross-border investigations
      to discover the manipulations. If the resources are indeed not
      needed or in active use, why would or should they not have been
      returned to the Registry for the common good?<br>
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    <p>For those whose resources were stolen or hijacked, I expect their
      legal department will be pursuing the hijackers/traders/users with
      gusto by now.<br>
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    <p>While appreciating the whistle blower(s) for a job well done on
      behalf of the entire community, Instead of running a mob-justice
      system here, with the assurance that justice will be served, the
      community should rather apply its mind on how to make sure that IP
      resources are available for developing the continent. That will be
      a better use of our time and intellect.</p>
    Sunday.
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05/12/2019 1:46 PM, Mike Silber
      wrote:<br>
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      Be that as it may - that seems to ignore the fact that there
      appears to have been significant malfeasance regarding non-legacy
      space.
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      <div class="">I just want to ensure that we maintain a balanced
        view of the problem and not deflect it to focus only on the
        legacy space issue.<br class="">
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        <div class="">It terms of priorities - it would make sense to me
          to focus on how space that should have been subject to the RSA
          has been mis-appropriated and then turn to the more difficult
          question of legacy space. If the current processes are open to
          abuse, then moving legacy space under those processes may not
          have the desired outcome. </div>
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        <div class="">Mike<br class="">
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              <div class="">On 5 Dec 2019, at 14:27, Mark Tinka <<a
                  href="mailto:mark.tinka@seacom.mu" class=""
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                wrote:</div>
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                <div class=""> <font class="" face="Tahoma">Completely
                    agree with Sunday.<br class="">
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                    Mark.<br class="">
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                  <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/Dec/19 13:02, Sunday
                    Folayan wrote:<br class="">
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                    cite="mid:ea8dc349-e2dc-2a8c-eb0e-ab85139edf6a@gmail.com"
                    class="">Isn't it time to address Legacy space
                    issues, specifically ancient squatters on spaces
                    meant to develop the Internet in Africa, AfriNIC
                    Services and bringing legacy spaces under some form
                    of RSA? <br class="">
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                    I urge the community to think beyond the sensation
                    and let us see how to help and empower the people
                    doing useful work for Africa. <br class="">
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                    Thanks. <br class="">
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                    Sunday. <br class="">
                    <br class="">
                    On 04/12/2019 6:23 PM, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: <br
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                    <blockquote type="cite" class="">I hope you all will
                      take the time to read and think about the
                      following <br class="">
                      news story. <br class="">
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href="https://mybroadband.co.za/news/internet/330379-how-internet-resources-worth-r800-million-were-stolen-and-sold-on-the-black-market.html"
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                        I will have more to say about this in due
                      course.  For the moment, I only <br class="">
                      wish to say that the investigation undertaken by
                      myself and Jan Vermeulen <br class="">
                      is ongoing, and that many others are provably
                      involved. <br class="">
                          Regards, <br class="">
                      rfg <br class="">
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Sunday Adekunle Folayan
Managing Director
General data Engineering Services (SKANNET)
16 Oshin Road, Kongi Bodija, Ibadan - Nigeria
Phone: +234 802 291 2202, +234 816 866 7523
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