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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=ES link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I don’t think AFRINIC publishes an attendee list, an even less with contact emails, so not sure how that will work.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>At least, I just looked at the website (and recent events websites) and couldn’t find it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Jordi<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>@jordipalet<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>El 17/11/19 16:44, "Andrew Alston" <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>> escribió:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt;background:white'><span style='color:#212121'>Personally I have another take on this -<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt;background:white'><span style='color:#212121'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt;background:white'><span style='color:#212121'>I do not agree with spam - or harvesting emails - period - so will start there.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt;background:white'><span style='color:#212121'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt;background:white'><span style='color:#212121'>I do however think that it may be worth considering an opt in/opt out list for attendees of AfriNIC meetings where people who wish to promote services or give general information about what they are doing etc may be worth having.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt;background:white'><span style='color:#212121'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt;background:white'><span style='color:#212121'>This creates a situation where it avoids to the spam, it’s opt in so people who do want to see services on offer by attendees have the option of subscribing, and it lets the community market their services to each other. I would have no issue with the existence of such a list.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt;background:white'><span style='color:#212121'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt;background:white'><span style='color:#212121'>Just a thought<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt;background:white'><span style='color:#212121'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt;background:white'><span style='color:#212121'>Andrew <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt;background:white'><span style='color:#212121'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div id=ms-outlook-mobile-signature><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Get <a href="https://aka.ms/o0ukef">Outlook for iOS</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='margin-left:35.4pt;text-align:center'><hr size=0 width="95%" align=center></div><div id=divRplyFwdMsg><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><b><span style='color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='color:black'> Mark Tinka <mark.tinka@seacom.mu><br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:32:27 PM<br><b>To:</b> community-discuss@afrinic.net <community-discuss@afrinic.net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Community-Discuss] Fwd: AFRINIC-31 Meeting</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>I'm not sure stopping them from attending is possible, as that can be easily forged.<br><br>I'm also not sure preventing them from reaching out to the community for their business is also feasible.<br><br>The only real defence that I see is equipping the community with sufficient knowledge about this so folk are not easily swayed by the glorious promises of engaging with them.<br><br>Mark.</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>On 16/Nov/19 17:20, Sami Salih wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>if we all agreed that the reasons they want to attend AFRINIC is not welcoming, can we be more proactive and stop them from attending or at least stop them from conveying the message to the community ? <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="x_Signature"><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><b>Dr. Sami H.O. Salih</b><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Assistant Prof, School of Electronics Engineering, SUST<br>Head of R&D, NTC, SUDAN<br>President of SDv6TF<br>T/F: (249)122045707/187171355</span> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='margin-left:35.4pt;text-align:center'><hr size=0 width="80%" align=center></div><div id="x_divRplyFwdMsg"><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><b><span style='color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='color:black'> Owen DeLong <a href="mailto:owen@delong.com"><owen@delong.com></a><br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, November 16, 2019 12:02 AM<br><b>To:</b> Badru Ntege <a href="mailto:badru.ntege@nftconsult.com"><badru.ntege@nftconsult.com></a><br><b>Cc:</b> General Discussions of AFRINIC <a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net"><community-discuss@afrinic.net></a>; <a href="mailto:members-discuss@afrinic.net">members-discuss@afrinic.net</a> <a href="mailto:members-discuss@afrinic.net"><members-discuss@afrinic.net></a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Community-Discuss] Fwd: AFRINIC-31 Meeting</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>The best solution is simply to make sure to avoid doing business with them. Eventually they get the hint, especially if you tell them flat out that you don’t do business with spammers. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Owen<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>On Nov 15, 2019, at 09:49 , Badru Ntege <<a href="mailto:badru.ntege@nftconsult.com">badru.ntege@nftconsult.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>I agree with you on the bad taste. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Have many words to add but time to breathe in and out and constrain oneself <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'><br>On 15 Nov 2019, at 12:26, Mark Tinka <<a href="mailto:mark.tinka@seacom.mu">mark.tinka@seacom.mu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>Not sure if anyone else has received these... <br><br>I am probably old school, but these kinds of things leave a bad taste in my mouth.<br><br>Mark.</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><br>-------- Forwarded Message -------- <o:p></o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style='margin-left:35.4pt'><tr><td nowrap valign=top style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right'><b>Subject: <o:p></o:p></b></p></td><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal>AFRINIC-31 Meeting<o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td nowrap valign=top style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right'><b>Date: <o:p></o:p></b></p></td><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal>Fri, 15 Nov 2019 09:18:52 +0000<o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td nowrap valign=top style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right'><b>From: <o:p></o:p></b></p></td><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal>Lena AFRINIC <a href="mailto:lena@breeden-comm.com"><lena@breeden-comm.com></a><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td nowrap valign=top style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right'><b>To: <o:p></o:p></b></p></td><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><a href="mailto:mark.tinka@seacom.mu">mark.tinka@seacom.mu</a><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='color:white'><br></span><br><img border=0 width=1 height=1 style='width:.0104in;height:.0104in' id="_x0000_i1026" src="http://service.breeden-comm.com/track/open/a9ed607d7b13c9f6c080329fddff7c26"><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><img src="http://service.breeden-comm.com/content/2efdcfad60a3dcd7c788098b904e40cf.png" align=right><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Greetings,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Hope this email finds you well!</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>I'm representing IPv4 Services, a registered broker in RIPE, ARIN and APNIC. 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