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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=ES link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span class=EstiloCorreo19><span style='font-size:12.0pt'></span></span><span class=EstiloCorreo19><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>I don’t think this will be acceptable.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=EstiloCorreo19><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=EstiloCorreo19><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>We like it or not we should not ban anyone to come to the meetings, unless they violate code of conduct or anything similar that we have for the meetings. Of course, unless in our code of conduct we state explicitly that anyone using the whois or collecting emails from the lists will be ban to participate in the meetings.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=EstiloCorreo19><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=EstiloCorreo19><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>Of course, what it can be done, but this is up to individual decision of each AFRINIC meeting participant is to tell them “sorry, you’re a spammer and violate people privacy collecting their emails, I’m not doing to talk to you, go away from me”. Be sure that I will do that, if they approach me!<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=EstiloCorreo19><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=EstiloCorreo19><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>That said, I’m completely against SPAM, and collecting emails. There is no *<b>any</b>* valid reason you can use emails even if they are in whois, or whatever, for marketing. That’s spam.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=EstiloCorreo19><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=EstiloCorreo19><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>In the case of EU citizens or residents, if I get any of those marketing emails, you can make sure that will open a case in the Data Protection Agency, and it typically means a fine of up to 20.000.000 Euros. This apply also to some countries that signed the GDPR, such as Mauritius. In the last few years (even before GDPR, as we had a similar framework, with fines of up to 600.000 Euros), I’ve initiated about 2.000 claims, so I know very well how easy (and online with a digital certificate) is to do that. As a consequence they will get their compliance with the GDPR checked and a fine according to the level of lack of compliance and the actions against GDPR that they have done (such as collecting emails without an explicit authorization of the owner, or sending spam without an explicit consent).<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=EstiloCorreo19><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=EstiloCorreo19><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>I don’t know if other countries from AFRINIC service region also signed it, but even if not, there may be specific regulations protecting your privacy or against spam, in each country.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=EstiloCorreo19><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Regard</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>s,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Jordi<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>@jordipalet<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>El 16/11/19 23:26, "Sami Salih" <<a href="mailto:sami.salih@outlook.com">sami.salih@outlook.com</a>> escribió:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>if we all agreed that the reasons they want to attend AFRINIC is not welcoming, can we be more proactive and stop them from attending or at least stop them from conveying the message to the community ? <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id=Signature><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><b>Dr. Sami H.O. Salih</b><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Assistant Prof, School of Electronics Engineering, SUST<br>Head of R&D, NTC, SUDAN<br>President of SDv6TF<br>T/F: (249)122045707/187171355</span> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='margin-left:35.4pt;text-align:center'><hr size=0 width="95%" align=center></div><div id=divRplyFwdMsg><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><b><span style='color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='color:black'> Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com><br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, November 16, 2019 12:02 AM<br><b>To:</b> Badru Ntege <badru.ntege@nftconsult.com><br><b>Cc:</b> General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net>; members-discuss@afrinic.net <members-discuss@afrinic.net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Community-Discuss] Fwd: AFRINIC-31 Meeting</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>The best solution is simply to make sure to avoid doing business with them. Eventually they get the hint, especially if you tell them flat out that you don’t do business with spammers. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Owen<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>On Nov 15, 2019, at 09:49 , Badru Ntege <<a href="mailto:badru.ntege@nftconsult.com">badru.ntege@nftconsult.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>I agree with you on the bad taste. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Have many words to add but time to breathe in and out and constrain oneself <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'><br>On 15 Nov 2019, at 12:26, Mark Tinka <<a href="mailto:mark.tinka@seacom.mu">mark.tinka@seacom.mu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>Not sure if anyone else has received these... <br><br>I am probably old school, but these kinds of things leave a bad taste in my mouth.<br><br>Mark.</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><br>-------- Forwarded Message -------- <o:p></o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style='margin-left:35.4pt'><tr><td nowrap valign=top style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right'><b>Subject: <o:p></o:p></b></p></td><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal>AFRINIC-31 Meeting<o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td nowrap valign=top style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right'><b>Date: <o:p></o:p></b></p></td><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal>Fri, 15 Nov 2019 09:18:52 +0000<o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td nowrap valign=top style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right'><b>From: <o:p></o:p></b></p></td><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal>Lena AFRINIC <a href="mailto:lena@breeden-comm.com"><lena@breeden-comm.com></a><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td nowrap valign=top style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right'><b>To: <o:p></o:p></b></p></td><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><a href="mailto:mark.tinka@seacom.mu">mark.tinka@seacom.mu</a><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='color:white'><br></span><br><img border=0 width=1 height=1 style='width:.0104in;height:.0104in' id="_x0000_i1026" src="http://service.breeden-comm.com/track/open/a9ed607d7b13c9f6c080329fddff7c26"><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><img src="http://service.breeden-comm.com/content/2efdcfad60a3dcd7c788098b904e40cf.png" align=right><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Greetings,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Hope this email finds you well!</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>I'm representing IPv4 Services, a registered broker in RIPE, ARIN and APNIC. 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