<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;color:#20124d">Dear All, </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;color:#20124d"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;color:#20124d">I have read the report and acknowledge that this is a great report and provides appropriate action points to be considered. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;color:#20124d"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;color:#20124d">Kind Regards </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;color:#20124d">Daniel K. Nanghaka</div></div><div hspace="streak-pt-mark" style="max-height:1px"><img alt="" style="width:0px;max-height:0px;overflow:hidden" src="https://mailfoogae.appspot.com/t?sender=aZG5kYW5uYW5nQGdtYWlsLmNvbQ%3D%3D&type=zerocontent&guid=245749f8-2877-4e21-bbd7-ebd78820810e"><font color="#ffffff" size="1">ᐧ</font></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 24 Jul 2019 at 10:42, Sami Salih <<a href="mailto:sami.salih@outlook.com">sami.salih@outlook.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<span>Thank you Internet Society’s Africa, and Thank you Dawit and Michuki,<br>
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<div>This is what we expected from ISOC and from you as real Africans who really cares about the stability of this continent.<br>
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<div>Few points I would like to highlight as follows:<br>
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<div>1) The Board can never viewed as part of any problem (I prefer use issues instead) if and only if we (I will always use WE as we are one community) increase the level of transparency. However, increasing transparency DID NOT mean to disclose everything.
While I personally support disclosing the methodologies use to take decisions, I believe this is to be evaluated by the board its self to decide on the information to be share with members, community, etc. Overall, the board needed to build a trusted relationship
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<div>2) Engagement is always good thing, semi-annual meeting with one of them organized with AFNOG and accommodate Af* is what we practices for a while. Is this enough or not is not easy to judge by simply take individual views in such session. We need to consider
that over-engagement will negatively affect the organization not only in term of financial cost but also the cost of the stability of running the organization, as we need to give board, staff etc a peaceful environment to act and innovate. Substantially, engagement
is a two way process, let us see how we can encourage the other parts (than AFRINIC) to initiate engagement initiatives. ;-)
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<div>3) Enforce the CC is an urgent requirement not only the personal attack but other hostile activities against the organization and its stability. This is not an easy task, I experienced this during my long term as PDWG Co-, with the population of the community
and the diversity of individual and the groups while taking into consideration the number of contributions especially before and after the meeting, its really difficult to moderate the list in a way that satisfying the community and reflect a better image
of the glob. We need to tolerate some and stickily avoid/mitigate/prevent or even ban unacceptable locution. This is again a big dilemma as continuous monitoring and instant judgement not an easy task to be achieved. The better way in my perspective is to
count on the community maturity to tolerate and ignore bad things posted in an angry moment.<br>
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<div>In this regard, I propose to have a dedicated group or sub-group may be under Governance Committee to enforce CC in the mailing list and during the meeting and other sessions.<br>
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<div>4) The legal interpretations and other bylaw issues can't be discussed in such details during open mic, only specialists in a small dedicated group can provide useful contributions and suggested the way-forward. As you can notice different views and different
wishes are expressed at the end only specialist can enlightening and guide the community to respect the local laws and maintain the spirit of the bottom-up system for RIRs.<br>
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<div>5) In page (3) please remove/rephrase this sentence ".... vote on policy proposals. ..." cos its not accurate.<br>
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<div>6) I would also propose that the Nomination and Election processes to be conducted by the governance committee, or at least they need to set a clear rule and procedure for those sensitive activities.<br>
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<div>Once again I would like to thank Dawit and Michuki for this detailed report and their observations and proposals.<br>
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<div>Regards,<br>
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<div id="gmail-m_-3248185758886450446Signature"><span style="font-size:12pt"><b>Sami H.O. Salih, PhD., PMP</b></span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">®</span><br>
<font size="2" style="font-size:10pt"><span style="font-size:10pt">Assistant Prof, School of Electronics Engineering,</span></font><font size="2" style="font-size:10pt"><br>
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<div id="gmail-m_-3248185758886450446divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Mark Tinka <<a href="mailto:mark.tinka@seacom.mu" target="_blank">mark.tinka@seacom.mu</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 24, 2019 12:51 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net" target="_blank">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a> <<a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net" target="_blank">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Community-Discuss] Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] Report of the AFRINIC Open Mic Session on June 20</font>
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<div class="gmail-m_-3248185758886450446x_moz-cite-prefix">On 23/Jul/19 22:30, Noah wrote:<br>
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<div>Thanks you so much for this report and having read through it, I find it very accurate as it covers the accounts of the said deliberations. We hope all stakeholders will consider the content of the report and act upon it.</div>
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<div>Looking forward to more engagement and collaboration.</div>
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Date: Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 12:40 PM<br>
Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] Report of the AFRINIC Open Mic Session on June 20<br>
To: AfrICANN Community List <<a href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net" target="_blank">africann@afrinic.net</a>><br>
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<p class="gmail-m_-3248185758886450446x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">As you might remember, AFRINIC board asked Michuki and I to moderate the open mic discussion after the board meeting on June 20. We accepted the request and moderated the meeting as best as we could. With
some delay, we have prepared a report of the meeting that we would like to share here (attached). We focused on reporting on the issues raised rather than providing detailed minutes of the discussion.</span></p>
<p class="gmail-m_-3248185758886450446x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Please let us know if there is any inaccuracy so that we make corrections before submitting a final version.</span></p>
<p class="gmail-m_-3248185758886450446x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Thank you,</span></p>
<p class="gmail-m_-3248185758886450446x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Dawit Bekele and Michuki Mwangi</span></p>
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