<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Well said walu<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">But the Parliament in Mauritius is about to pass the privacy law at some point which is very close to GDPR. Which is to protect the Mauritius citizens equally so I would say as I keep saying this let us just use the most not lenient laws so we have a compass to ensure compliance with the harshest one which makes it more difficult to miss out on things. <br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 10, 2019, at 11:51 AM, John Walu <<a href="mailto:walu.john@gmail.com" class="">walu.john@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">@ Owen <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">GDPR territorial scope extends beyond Europe since its is EU citizen specific rather than geo-specific.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://gdpr-info.eu/art-3-gdpr/" class="">https://gdpr-info.eu/art-3-gdpr/</a><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In other words, anyone (Data controller/processor) handling EU citizen data is automatically subject to the GDPR in the event of a data breach - irrespective of their geo-locality.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> Ofcourse the main issue will be if the affected EU citizen will actually file a complaint in the EU Courts or not. The second issue is whether the EU courts will find the data controller guilty and if the fined/penalized entity will to pay up or ignore given their remoteness to EU centers of power. (nb:Facebook and Google have so far been paying up ;-)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Is AfriNIC bound by GDPR?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The simple answer is - it depends. </div><div class="">Do Afrinic processes and systems at any one point collect, store or process data that contains EU citizens?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If the answer is NO. Then they are not bound by GDPR.</div><div class="">If the answer is YES. Then they are potentially bound by GDPR to the extent that if that data is abused/breached, then they potentially face sanctions/penalties from EU courts.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Either way, Mauritius has one of the <a href="http://dataprotection.govmu.org/English/Legislation/Pages/default.aspx" class="">most comprehensive Data Protection legislation on the continent</a> and any data breach can actually be litigated locally (without the need for GDPR) with penalties to AfriNIC (if for example it is determined that email targets/addresses were harvested from Afrinic digital resources without consent from the data subjects).</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">walu.</div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 8:04 AM Owen DeLong <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" class="">owen@delong.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br class="">
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> On Jul 5, 2019, at 14:13 , JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss <<a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net" target="_blank" class="">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:<br class="">
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> If the board can't investigate that, we may have a problem, because Afrinic has to comply with GDPR.<br class="">
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Why? AfriNIC is not located in the EU and does not solicit business with EU persons.<br class="">
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AfriNIC is not, by my reading, subject to the GDPR.<br class="">
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Even if they were, AfriNIC did not violate GDPR here. Wafa might have, but I don’t think she is subject to GDPR, either. Last I looked, Tunisia was outside EU jurisdiction.<br class="">
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> I don't know if those emails come from whois or something else, but some logs may tell.<br class="">
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Why is this relevant?<br class="">
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> I my opinion it will be nicer to get a response from Wafa, and I'm sure the community will be happy to forgive her. My intent is not to punish anyone, just to make sure that we find solutions to possible problems and mistakes and avoid repeating them.<br class="">
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I have no issue with the use of the email addresses. I think the far more important issue here is the message sent under color of authority which authority likely was not authorized to Wafa at the time.<br class="">
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> El 5/7/19 10:16, "Alan Barrett" <<a href="mailto:alan.barrett@afrinic.net" target="_blank" class="">alan.barrett@afrinic.net</a>> escribió:<br class="">
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>> On 3 Jul 2019, at 15:50, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss <<a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net" target="_blank" class="">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:<br class="">
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>> I’m angrier about this as much as I think on it again.<br class="">
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>> Can the board and the staff investigate this?<br class="">
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>> Can all the people that got those emails confirm if they have provided voluntarily their emails or if they have participated in Afrinic lists, or if those emails are part of their Afrinic contacts, in order to understand if this personal data (emails are personal data), have been collected from Afrinic internal databases.<br class="">
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> There is no reasonable way for AFRINIC staff to investigate whether the recipients had agreed to receive the messages sent by Wafa Dahmani. There is also no reasonable way for staff to investigate whether email addresses were collected from the public WHOIS database. There is no non-public AFRINIC database that could have been used.<br class="">
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