<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>Dear Ahmed</div><div><br></div><div>First and foremost, welcome on-board this community mailing list since I am seeing you post for the first time ever and I hope you will continue to engage in various discussions as a member of the community now.</div><div><br></div><div>So, I have been catching up with email and I would like to also contribute to the discussion by stating a few things in reference to people being <b>biased</b> in general.</div><div><br></div><div>Let me introduce myself first. I personally work for AS37100 a member of AfriNIC, I was popularly elected by the community as a volunteer to the AfriNIC ASO - AC and my term ends next year in 2020, I am a secretary general of an ISP association in my country of residence, and I am generally involved within the AFRICAN internet community as a volunteer with various non-profit organizations because voluntary work is fulfilling. However, whatever I say here often is from a personal point of view unless I state otherwise.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I am telling you all this because, with all my years of engagement in this community, I have always spoken in my own personal capacity that is why I use my own personal email address. Nothing I say is ever a representation of any of the organization I am affiliated with, though so often, my affiliations have been used by some members of this community to attack my personal character, sometime as far as going after my employment just because of my personal views on various matters pertaining the African Internet Community. What I am trying to say is that, Wafa as a community member, just like me, so often speaks on her own personal capacity and I believe she has since clarified this to you and the community. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Therefore, I doubt its "<b>bias</b>"as you put it ...... and my view of that email from her to you is basically an elections campaign for a candidate and candidates of her choice and in the end, her efforts seems to have paid off as some of the candidate she was supporting for the Northern Africa seat Dr.Habib ended up getting the highest votes ever of all candidates in the entire board elections. I was on the ground in Kampala and Habib did well also in terms of campaigning, so did other candidates and I can understand why he was Wafa's choice and and her strategy for the Northern Africa candidate for board election did indeed work. That is what good mobilization in campaigns does.<br></div><div><br></div><div>In fact just in the same elections, there was a very well coordinated campaign that involved among other things, mudslinging of a specific candidate by some members of the various constituencies within the community and this also perfectly OK. Folks can go as far as using print media and sometime private lobbying through mailing lists and chat rooms. Its the nature of politicking and campaigns are tough and sometimes they get ugly, after all, not all candidates are supposed to be liked by the entire electorate yet politicking still goes on. This is basically pure politics 101 and its perfectly acceptable and normal
and as they say, politics is part of daily life and so many of us in
this community have been party to this and its nothing new. </div></div></div><div><br></div>I submit to you that, being a member of, say, the AfriNIC appeals committee, or ASO-AC or GC ...you name it, does not stop someone from having their own <b>subjective</b> <b>views</b> nor does it stop them from being involved in community politics at a personal level. Remember above and beyond, we are all part of the Internet community before our various affiliations and after being party to these affiliations, we continue to be members of the internet community and remain in this community. <br></div><div><br></div><div>What really matters is respect for each other and how we treat each other even when we disagree because in the end, its through this politics that we progress as we continue to individually contribute, improve and resolve some of our challenges.<br><br></div>Cheers and I look forward to more engagement with you Mr.Ahmed.<br><br></div>Noah<br><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 2:17 PM Ahmed Fadl <<a href="mailto:ahmed.fadl@57357.org" target="_blank">ahmed.fadl@57357.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="m_-7788408160655425034m_6165168403487073394gmail-m_7279597887498753255MsoPlainText"><a name="m_-7788408160655425034_m_6165168403487073394_m_7279597887498753255__MailEndCompose">Hi Wafa,<u></u><u></u></a></p>
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<p class="m_-7788408160655425034m_6165168403487073394gmail-m_7279597887498753255MsoPlainText">Thanks for your email.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="m_-7788408160655425034m_6165168403487073394gmail-m_7279597887498753255MsoPlainText">I, among other members of AFRINIC in Egypt, received the following email from you many times.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="m_-7788408160655425034m_6165168403487073394gmail-m_7279597887498753255MsoPlainText">I wondered at that time why should I vote for these candidates specially for those in Eastern and Southern regions while each one was the sole candidate in his region. I quote this from your email "Ladies and Gentlemen, in the context
of our strategy ...." what is your strategy and who are you ?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="m_-7788408160655425034m_6165168403487073394gmail-m_7279597887498753255MsoPlainText">If you are talking about biasing the community, So, do you consider your email as a "member of the appeal committee; ASO / AC excom member and Ex Chair of Governance Committee '(GC) at AFRINIC." fall under what ?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="m_-7788408160655425034m_6165168403487073394gmail-m_7279597887498753255MsoPlainText">I sent this mail many time but I don’t know why I can’t find this mail on community
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<p class="m_-7788408160655425034m_6165168403487073394gmail-m_7279597887498753255MsoPlainText">Thanks,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> wafa Dahmani [mailto:<a href="mailto:wafatn7604@gmail.com" target="_blank">wafatn7604@gmail.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 19, 2019 1:05 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> wafa Dahmani <<a href="mailto:wafatn7604@gmail.com" target="_blank">wafatn7604@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> AFRINIC Borad Elections<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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My name is Wafa Dahmani from Tunisia, an active member of the African community and more specifically AFRINIC: member of the appeal committee; ASO / AC excom member and Ex Chair of Governance Committee '(GC) at AFRINIC.<br>
I contact you to solicit your votes for the following candidates:<br>
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Board of Directors:<br>
North Africa (seat 1)<u></u><u></u></p>
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Habin Youssef<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
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Ly Ousmane<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
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South Africa (seat 5)<u></u><u></u></p>
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Mpisane Vika William<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
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East Africa (seat 6)<u></u><u></u></p>
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Nkusi Robert Ford<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
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Non-regional (seat 7)<u></u><u></u></p>
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Eshun Benjamin Adzenyamebeye<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
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Election Number Resource Organization Number Council<u></u><u></u></p>
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Mustapha Ben Jemaa<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
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Election Policy Development Working Group<u></u><u></u></p>
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Komi Elitcha<u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal">
Sami Hassan<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
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Election Governance Committee<u></u><u></u></p>
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Daniel Nanghaka<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Ladies and Gentlemen, in the context of our strategy and in order to preserve AFRINIC's interests for Africa and to be able to choose the right candidates for North Africa in the long term, it is desirable to join all our efforts and vote
for these candidates who presents the best choice for an adequate board<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">the de facto vote online through your interface with AFRINIC is very simple for all categories except the policy development Working group where we want you to mobilize your teams on the spot to vote for our candidates<br>
We strongly solicit your support<br>
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Thank you<br>
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Wafa Dahmani<br>
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member AFRINIC Appeal Committee<br>
Global IGF MAG member<br>
ASO / AC excom member<u></u><u></u></p>
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