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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 4, 2019 9:47 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ahmed Fadl <ahmed.fadl@57357.org>; Noah <noah@neo.co.tz><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Community-Discuss@afrinic.net; wafa Dahmani <wafatn7604@gmail.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Shokran Ahmed for showing up, welcome to AFRINIC community.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">If I understand your sentence correctly, I have to tell you that AFRINIC board is 9 seats (6 Regional, 2 Non-Regional, and the CEO).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">hope this help clarifying the issue.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt">Assistant Prof, School of Electronics Engineering, SUST<br>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 4, 2019 10:28 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Sami Salih; Noah<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:Community-Discuss@afrinic.net">Community-Discuss@afrinic.net</a>; wafa Dahmani<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><a name="x__MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thank you Sami for your introduction</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Let me also introduce myself
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">My name is Ahmed Fadl, I’m working in healthcare nonprofit organization called children cancer hospital Egypt (57357), it is curing our patients with free of
charge, my role is healthcare applications director.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Our hospital is one of the biggest hospital in the world in this specializations.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Also I’m responsible for the IP pools of our organization so I joined Afrinic community.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">My point from my mail is we have to know the plan and strategy for every person before we vote for them.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I noticed that all the list by Wafaa from the same region why? I don’t know
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">The characteristics of the board members should include diversification because we need all Africa regions to take all benefits and increase all regions knowledge
and skills.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">This is what I mean by my mail.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Finally welcome everyone has good plan for developing my country and all African countries.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Also all respect for community members.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Sami Salih [<a href="mailto:sami.salih@outlook.com">mailto:sami.salih@outlook.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 4, 2019 6:14 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Noah <<a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz">noah@neo.co.tz</a>>; Ahmed Fadl <<a href="mailto:ahmed.fadl@57357.org">ahmed.fadl@57357.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:Community-Discuss@afrinic.net">Community-Discuss@afrinic.net</a>; wafa Dahmani <<a href="mailto:wafatn7604@gmail.com">wafatn7604@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I hope you reply Ahmed, since we have very bad experience with unknown fellows who come once to raise suspicious issue then disappear !</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Looking for your positive continuous engagement.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Head of R&D, NTC, SUDAN<br>
President of SDv6TF<br>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 4, 2019 1:41 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ahmed Fadl<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:Community-Discuss@afrinic.net">Community-Discuss@afrinic.net</a>; wafa Dahmani<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">First and foremost, welcome on-board this community mailing list since I am seeing you post for the first time ever and I hope you will continue to engage in various discussions as a member of the community now.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">So, I have been catching up with email and I would like to also contribute to the discussion by stating a few things in reference to people being
<b>biased</b> in general.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">Let me introduce myself first. I personally work for AS37100 a member of AfriNIC, I was popularly elected by the community as a volunteer to the AfriNIC ASO - AC and my term ends next year in 2020, I am a secretary general of an ISP association
in my country of residence, and I am generally involved within the AFRICAN internet community as a volunteer with various non-profit organizations because voluntary work is fulfilling. However, whatever I say here often is from a personal point of view unless
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<p class="xmsonormal">I am telling you all this because, with all my years of engagement in this community, I have always spoken in my own personal capacity that is why I use my own personal email address. Nothing I say is ever a representation of any of the
organization I am affiliated with, though so often, my affiliations have been used by some members of this community to attack my personal character, sometime as far as going after my employment just because of my personal views on various matters pertaining
the African Internet Community. What I am trying to say is that, Wafa as a community member, just like me, so often speaks on her own personal capacity and I believe she has since clarified this to you and the community.
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<p class="xmsonormal">Therefore, I doubt its "<b>bias</b>"as you put it ...... and my view of that email from her to you is basically an elections campaign for a candidate and candidates of her choice and in the end, her efforts seems to have paid off as some
of the candidate she was supporting for the Northern Africa seat Dr.Habib ended up getting the highest votes ever of all candidates in the entire board elections. I was on the ground in Kampala and Habib did well also in terms of campaigning, so did other
candidates and I can understand why he was Wafa's choice and and her strategy for the Northern Africa candidate for board election did indeed work. That is what good mobilization in campaigns does.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">In fact just in the same elections, there was a very well coordinated campaign that involved among other things, mudslinging of a specific candidate by some members of the various constituencies within the community and this also perfectly
OK. Folks can go as far as using print media and sometime private lobbying through mailing lists and chat rooms. Its the nature of politicking and campaigns are tough and sometimes they get ugly, after all, not all candidates are supposed to be liked by the
entire electorate yet politicking still goes on. This is basically pure politics 101 and its perfectly acceptable and normal and as they say, politics is part of daily life and so many of us in this community have been party to this and its nothing new.
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<p class="xmsonormal">I submit to you that, being a member of, say, the AfriNIC appeals committee, or ASO-AC or GC ...you name it, does not stop someone from having their own
<b>subjective</b> <b>views</b> nor does it stop them from being involved in community politics at a personal level. Remember above and beyond, we are all part of the Internet community before our various affiliations and after being party to these affiliations,
we continue to be members of the internet community and remain in this community.
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<p class="xmsonormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Cheers and I look forward to more engagement with you Mr.Ahmed.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 2:17 PM Ahmed Fadl <<a href="mailto:ahmed.fadl@57357.org" target="_blank">ahmed.fadl@57357.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<a name="x_x_m_-7788408160655425034_m_61651684034">Hi Wafa,</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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Thanks for your email.<o:p></o:p></p>
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I, among other members of AFRINIC in Egypt, received the following email from you many times.<o:p></o:p></p>
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I wondered at that time why should I vote for these candidates specially for those in Eastern and Southern regions while each one was the sole candidate in his region. I quote this from your email "Ladies and Gentlemen, in the context of our strategy ...."
what is your strategy and who are you ?<o:p></o:p></p>
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If you are talking about biasing the community, So, do you consider your email as a "member of the appeal committee; ASO / AC excom member and Ex Chair of Governance Committee '(GC) at AFRINIC." fall under what ?<o:p></o:p></p>
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I sent this mail many time but I don’t know why I can’t find this mail on community
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<p class="xxmsonormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> wafa Dahmani [mailto:<a href="mailto:wafatn7604@gmail.com" target="_blank">wafatn7604@gmail.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 19, 2019 1:05 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> wafa Dahmani <<a href="mailto:wafatn7604@gmail.com" target="_blank">wafatn7604@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> AFRINIC Borad Elections</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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My name is Wafa Dahmani from Tunisia, an active member of the African community and more specifically AFRINIC: member of the appeal committee; ASO / AC excom member and Ex Chair of Governance Committee '(GC) at AFRINIC.<br>
I contact you to solicit your votes for the following candidates:<br>
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Board of Directors:<br>
North Africa (seat 1)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l7 level1 lfo1">Habin Youssef<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2">Ly Ousmane<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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South Africa (seat 5)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l5 level1 lfo3">Mpisane Vika William<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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East Africa (seat 6)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l4 level1 lfo4">Nkusi Robert Ford<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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Non-regional (seat 7)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo5">Eshun Benjamin Adzenyamebeye<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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Election Number Resource Organization Number Council<o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6">Mustapha Ben Jemaa<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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Election Policy Development Working Group<o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l3 level1 lfo7">Komi Elitcha<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l3 level1 lfo7">Sami Hassan<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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Election Governance Committee<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xxmsonormal">Ladies and Gentlemen, in the context of our strategy and in order to preserve AFRINIC's interests for Africa and to be able to choose the right candidates for North Africa in the long term, it is desirable to join all our efforts and
vote for these candidates who presents the best choice for an adequate board<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xxmsonormal">the de facto vote online through your interface with AFRINIC is very simple for all categories except the policy development Working group where we want you to mobilize your teams on the spot to vote for our candidates<br>
We strongly solicit your support<br>
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Thank you<br>
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Wafa Dahmani<br>
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member AFRINIC Appeal Committee<br>
Global IGF MAG member<br>
ASO / AC excom member<o:p></o:p></p>
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