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<font face="Tahoma">I spend 20% of my e-mail time unsubscribing from
lists I was signed on, that I have zero clue about. I don't wonder
how my e-mail address was obtained (I mean, I could guess since
Google'ing myself actually returns a usable result), but I just
don't have the time.<br>
<br>
A further 10% of my e-mail time is ignoring Linkedin requests for
people I don't know and have no immediate connection with. I've
found many of those are just trying to grow their network, sell
you something, or both.<br>
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<font face="Tahoma"><font face="Tahoma">I spend another 10% of my
time ignoring and deleting e-mails from companies that join
industry meetings simply to sell you attendee lists or to sell
you airtime with other participants. ITW, PTC, Capacity * are
all victims of this, and this has now spread to our beloved NOG
community.<br>
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I again spend another 7% of my e-mail time just ignoring or
deleting what I term "improper" correspondence. This has, in the
past, included e-mails from people asking me to vote a certain way
for a number of elections, all over the world, for a number of
organizations (within and outside of our industry). If I find the
way in which you reached out to me for this, especially if I don't
know you, I just delete the e-mail and move on. If I know you and
feel you can do well for the community, I'll advise you about
doing better.<br>
<br>
I then spend another 3% of my e-mail time ignoring discussions
that aren't going anywhere.<br>
<br>
That leaves 50% of my e-mail time to do something actually
constructive. That's not a lot, in the grand scheme of things.<br>
<br>
If we throw everyone in the slammer and not teach them how to do
better, we won't have anyone left to throw in the slammer or teach
about how to do better.<br>
<br>
Bottom line, you can either spend your 24hrs in a day advancing a
meaningful objective, or not. I do a lot more of the former. Time
on this earth is limited... if I were drop dead right now, the
mailboxes I leave behind will still be half full of just nonsense.
<br>
<br>
Mark.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/Jul/19 00:39, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
via Community-Discuss wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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lang="EN-US">Hi Noah,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">I’m sure
we all have contacts from lots of people from the
community, but we use those contacts for the reason they
have been provided, is not lawful to use those for
anything else.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">The
point here is that even if I’ve your email because we have
contected about operational issues of our networks (for
example), I can use your email for selling you “fruits” or
“a car” or “convince you about what candidates to the
board you should vote”.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">In fact,
according to the GDPR (and in many countries even before
the GDPR), if I’ve your email because you’re my customer
for shoes, and tomorrow I setup a shop for fish, I can’t
use your email for that. If instead of shoes it is
clothes, it may depend on the original data that was
provided about my business when you registered for the
shoes. However, definitively I can’t use your email for
sending you a support request for my prefered board
candidates.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">Anyway,
there is a simple answer to all that. Can Ahmed, who send
the original email, confirm if he provided it to the
sender, for elections information or something else ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">Can
other folks who got that email, confirm if they have
provided it?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">With
just a few responses, we will be able to understand if
that was part of an allowed communication or there is data
protection issue.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">Jordi<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="EN-US">@jordipalet<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">El 4/7/19
0:07, "Noah" <<a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz"
moz-do-not-send="true">noah@neo.co.tz</a>> escribió:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Hi Jordi,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">On Wed,
Jul 3, 2019 at 2:51 PM JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via
Community-Discuss <<a
href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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lang="EN-US">I’m angrier about this as much as I
think on it again.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">I hope you
have come down.<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:35.4pt"><span
lang="EN-US">Can all the people that got those
emails confirm if they have provided voluntarily
their emails or if they have participated in
Afrinic lists, or if those emails are part of
their Afrinic contacts, in order to understand if
this personal data (emails are personal data),
have been collected from Afrinic internal
databases.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">I can
confirm I did receive such similar emails from various
candidates and some of their supporters seeking my vote.
I can also confirm that my address book is full of
contact email addresses of technical members of various
communities. I for instance know most email addresses of
technical people in my country and a few other countries
in East and Southern Africa and I have exchanged emails
with folks in the past and I still reach out to them
often regarding various Internet related activities. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Noah<o:p></o:p></p>
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