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    <font face="Tahoma">That is simple. I like simple.<br>
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      A topic worth discussing.<br>
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      Mark.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 16/Jun/19 16:58, Owen DeLong wrote:<br>
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      Personally, I think that we should simply eliminate the geographic
      restrictions on board seats and have a single AfriNIC board
      elected from qualified candidates from within the region,
      regardless of where in the region they come from.
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      <div class="">Owen</div>
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            <div class="">On Jun 16, 2019, at 4:39 AM, Dewole Ajao <<a
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                <p class="">Since we are on the topic of "reforming"
                  NomCom, I wonder why our bylaws state that candidates
                  for appointment to NomCom shall *not* be domiciled in
                  a region where an open seat is being contested. I
                  think a person resident within a region is more likely
                  to know and have access to suitably qualified
                  candidates and we should remove this restriction as we
                  try to improve the nomination.  <br class="">
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                <p class="">If the sole intention of this restriction
                  was to prevent favoritism/bias, I think adding
                  transparency to the process will quite easily expose
                  such. Or is anyone aware of other justifications for
                  having that restriction in place?<br class="">
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                <p class="">Dewole.<br class="">
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                <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/16/2019 11:54 AM, John
                  Walu wrote:<br class="">
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                      <div class="">On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 1:31 PM Owen
                        DeLong <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com"
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                      In general, I agree with you. I will, however,
                      note that it is possible that there are situations
                      where “why” should be redacted to protect the
                      confidentiality and dignity of the applicant who
                      was rejected. For example, if the nominating
                      committee had rejected a  candidate because he is
                      under indictment and under disciplinary review in
                      his day job for misconduct, I don’t think that
                      nomcom should be the ones to publicly disclose
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                      <div class="">Its true, we must protect the
                        applicant's privacy.  However, we must also
                        enhance the Nomcom's transparency.  Imagine a
                        situation where Nomcomm disqualifies candidates
                        because they allegedly did not respond to some
                        email. It is quite difficult really to really
                        prove beyond reasonable it at all such an email
                        was ever sent.  It is even harder to prove that
                        it was successfully delivered to the intended
                        recipient.</div>
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                      <div class="">In such a case, Nomcom should
                        publicly say Candidate X was disqualified
                        because they did not respond to an email. (that
                        in itself will discourage and expose a Nomcom
                        that  is heavily biased towards knocking out,
                        rather than recruiting board members;-)</div>
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                      <div class="">Perhaps a middle ground that would
                        protect the candidate's privacy while enhancing
                        Nomcom Transparency and accountability would be
                        to seek consent or objection from Candidates -
                        at the point of application - if they would
                        object to the reasons behind their rejection
                        being publicly reported.</div>
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                      <div class="">That way we avoid giving a blank
                        cheque to Nomcom who may make decisions knowing
                        very well that they need NOT explain themselves
                        to anyone (lack of accountability). </div>
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                      <div class="">So lets design and give Nomcomm a 
                        Standard Reporting Template to enhance their
                        transparency.  They will remain independent and
                        autonomous in the functionality, but they should
                        owe the community an understanding on how they
                        worked hard to raise good candidates for
                        AfriNIC.  </div>
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                      <div class="">The report from Nomcomm with respect
                        to the PDWG election is a good start and can be
                        refined and adapted for future Nomcomms.</div>
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                      <div class="">walu.</div>
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                      <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jun 15,
                        2019 at 1:31 PM Owen DeLong <<a
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                        > On Jun 4, 2019, at 11:34 PM, John Walu <<a
                          href="mailto:walu.john@gmail.com"
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                        > I believe the deeper question is WHY is
                        there an increasingly smaller candidate slate of
                        those volunteering to serve on Afrinic board,
                        year in year out.<br class="">
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                        > Two possible answers:<br class="">
                        > A) Good candidates are avoiding the
                        perceived 'challenging' board /management
                        /community relationships that continue to
                        persist. So nomcom hands are tied and cannot
                        manufacture candidates.<br class="">
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                        > OR<br class="">
                        > B) There are actually many good candidates
                        applying  BUT the Nomcom 'Black-box' processes
                        is kicking them out and reducing them to 1 or 2
                        nominees.<br class="">
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                        > To drill down to the correct answer, I
                        think the Nomcom process needs to be reformed. <br
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                        > I still do not understand the benefit of
                        having a black box process in the nomination
                        committee where the community has no clue about
                        how many candidates applied, how many got
                        knocked out and why. IF national Presidential
                        election systems are so open about this, why is
                        that it has to remain hidden for Afrinic?<br
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                        > And I say this as someone who has once
                        served on Nomcomm as well as someone who has
                        once been rejected by some previous Nomcomm (I
                        want to believe it is within my right to share
                        personal information/experience as this is not
                        covered under NDA, but I stand to be corrected
                        ;-)<br class="">
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                        > At a minimum, we should request that as
                        Nomcom publishes the candidate slate, they
                        should also show a tally (without the names) of
                        how many candidates applied, how many got kicked
                        out, why they were kicked out and how many
                        successfully went thro. <br class="">
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                        In general, I agree with you. I will, however,
                        note that it is possible that there are
                        situations where “why” should be redacted to
                        protect the confidentiality and dignity of the
                        applicant who was rejected. For example, if the
                        nominating committee had rejected a  candidate
                        because he is under indictment and under
                        disciplinary review in his day job for
                        misconduct, I don’t think that nomcom should be
                        the ones to publicly disclose those details.<br
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                        > I believe this information can shed some
                        light on the deeper question above of whether
                        indeed we have fewer applicants or our black-box
                        nommcom process is simply kicking them out in
                        order to eventually present a single candidate.<br
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                        My suspicion is that to some degree, both are
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