<div dir="ltr">Hi Alan and Mc Tim,<br><br>Sander, consciously or unconsciously, made fallacious statements in his endeavor to praise the outgoing CEO and his supporter, and disgrace those who want to stick to principles and procedures. This divisive tactic is evil and especially when it is coming from someone like Sander, a former Co-Chair in RIPE community who had displayed high sense of rationality in his community. You (Alan and Mc Tim) know, it is allowed to show that there is a division in AFRINIC Community <b>if and only if</b> it truly exists and also based on facts not on lies. You (Alan and Mc Tim) know that there is no trace of micromanagement in the minutes. Your tutorial and explanations on “micromanagement” are not needed because I would not argue with Sander. <br><br>Sander mention transparency in his email and I agree that we have to praise for transparency. I invite you to join me to praise the Board for publishing the minutes gave room to Sander to err. For both of you (Alan and Mc Tim), keep in mind that when you are defending evil, you will end up being evil.<br><br>Cheers <br><br><br>Benjiloh<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 8:46 AM Alan Levin <<a href="mailto:alanlevin@gmail.com">alanlevin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Benjamin,<div><br></div><div>When any board needs to formalise exactly how a CEO is to share a specific public document, that is micromanagement! </div><div><br></div><div>I would go so far as to say it's so bad because:</div><div>- when a CEO needs to formalise exactly how a Marketing Director is to share a specific public document, that is micromanagement! </div><div><div>- when a Marketing Director needs to formalise exactly how a SEO consultant is to share a specific public document, that is micromanagement! </div></div><div><br></div><div>Sincerely</div><div><br></div><div>Alan</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 at 12:56, Benjamin Ledoh <<a href="mailto:benjamin.ledoh@gmail.com" target="_blank">benjamin.ledoh@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi Sander,<br><br>It seems to me that you have not got my points well. I will rephrase them differently and give my last comments.<br><br>Based on the minutes of the board, you sent an email accusing the board of micromanagement. When I asked you to point it out in the minutes, you directed me to textbook. I don't know whether the micromanagement you are referring to the AFRINIC Community is in textbook. When you claim that “all responsibility and autonomy of the CEO has been taken away”, I asked you to prove it. Since you cannot prove it, you disappeared. Facing your inability to substantiate your own claims, you are telling me that “it is more appropriate to stay silent”.<br><br>I thank you for this option and I ask you to extend it to the entire community since it will help us a lot in this community. In Yoruba land we say that “when you don’t have fact to argue, wisdom suggests you keep quite.” Your silence would not give room to disruptive guys who want at all cost the opportunity to create confusion and crises in this community with the aims to destroy AFRINIC organization and community.<br><br>Abide with your suggestion, it will be Great service to our community.<br><br>Thank you,<br><br><br>Benjiloh<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 8:21 PM Sander Steffann <<a href="mailto:sander@steffann.nl" target="_blank">sander@steffann.nl</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi Benjamin,<br>
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> When I asked you to prove your hasty generalization “all responsibility and autonomy of the CEO has been taken away”, you disappeared, and no answer never come. It stands now there is no way you can justify because the “micromanagement” you are accusing the board to indulge in is not true.<br>
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No, if you can't see any micromanagement in the minutes then there is nothing I can say to convince you, so I just gave up trying. Anything I say would not help this discussion any further, so it is more appropriate to stay silent.<br>
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Cheers,<br>
Sander<br>
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