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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Can we conclude from the total lack of response to this email that in fact – there is no one willing to step up and say they support the current chair? Either member or board member?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Frank Habicht <geier@geier.ne.tz>
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 28 May 2019 16:36<br>
<b>To:</b> community-discuss@afrinic.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Community-Discuss] Gratitude<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi,<br>
<br>
reading<br>
<a href="https://www.afrinic.net/ast/pdf/2018-minutes/20181231-minutes.pdf">https://www.afrinic.net/ast/pdf/2018-minutes/20181231-minutes.pdf</a><br>
<br>
especially:<br>
<br>
SO stated that he had requested via email for the Board to announce the<br>
status of the AGMM quorum court case. He stated that the Chair had<br>
refused to do so, and the Chair had alleged that SO was looking for<br>
votes. SO had requested the Chair to withdraw the statement. The Chair<br>
stated that the Board had discussed the matter, and would communicate to<br>
the community at an appropriate time; based on that the Chair did not<br>
see a need to withdraw. SO again requested the Chair to withdraw the<br>
allegation that SO was looking for votes, and the Chair again refused to<br>
withdraw.<br>
</quote><br>
<br>
I conclude that the Chair actively tried to suppress information/updates<br>
from AfriNIC membership. He apparently had no good reason and was using<br>
the allegation of another board member "looking for votes" as only argument.<br>
<br>
Which member of AfriNIC wants to have such a chair at the AfriNIC board?<br>
Please identify yourselves positively.<br>
<br>
PS: I would also wish to know which other board members supported this<br>
decision by the chair.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Frank<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 28/05/2019 16:18, Mark Elkins wrote:<br>
> Thinking about the CEO, reading the minutes (<br>
> <a href="https://www.afrinic.net/ast/pdf/2019-minutes/20190305-minutes.pdf">
https://www.afrinic.net/ast/pdf/2019-minutes/20190305-minutes.pdf</a> ) - I<br>
> think the best way out for the AfriNIC community is if the whole board<br>
> resigns - just leave the CEO. Andrew has got it right.<br>
> <br>
> On 2019/05/28 14:36, Andrew Alston wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Benjamin,<br>
>><br>
>> <br>
>><br>
>> Let’s see – you have a public document – a document that is clearly<br>
>> and totally in the public domain. You have an individual who was a<br>
>> named party in that document – who chose to share that document. You<br>
>> have an active attempt by the board to sanction that individual for<br>
>> engaging with the community who he is meant to serve. You have a<br>
>> statement by the chair of the board that the CEO does not serve the<br>
>> community but instead serves the board.<br>
>><br>
>> <br>
>><br>
>> Effectively – you have a board attempting to censor the CEO from<br>
>> engaging with this community – in a bottom up organization that by<br>
>> legal representation during the IANA transition committed to the<br>
>> concepts of self determination of members and transparency and bottom<br>
>> up approach. <br>
>><br>
>> <br>
>><br>
>> 1. That constitutes micro-management<br>
>> 2. In constitutes a total and utter failure of the board to adhere to<br>
>> the principles sworn to in the foundation of the organization in<br>
>> the original ICP2<br>
>> 3. It shows a total disregard for the obligations set out in section<br>
>> 3 of the bylaws to keep members informed of all things pertinent<br>
>> to the company<br>
>><br>
>> <br>
>><br>
>> What I see here – is nothing short of disgraceful – and I find it<br>
>> absolutely shocking that any board member who has a shred of ethics –<br>
>> would not have resigned in light of what is in those documents. It is<br>
>> a slap in the face of this community – and the entire global RIR<br>
>> system – and I am disgusted and appalled. I would say to Serge as a<br>
>> starting point – if you have no shame – resign – now. I would say to<br>
>> the chair for your abject failure – resign – now. I would say to<br>
>> every member who consented to the final sections of that document –<br>
>> resign – now.<br>
>><br>
>> <br>
>><br>
>> Andrew<br>
>><br>
>> <br>
>><br>
>> <br>
>><br>
>> *From:*Benjamin Ledoh <<a href="mailto:benjamin.ledoh@gmail.com">benjamin.ledoh@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 28 May 2019 15:01<br>
>> *To:* Sander Steffann <<a href="mailto:sander@steffann.nl">sander@steffann.nl</a>><br>
>> *Cc:* General Discussions of AFRINIC <<a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a>><br>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Community-Discuss] Gratitude<br>
>><br>
>> <br>
>><br>
>> Dear Sander,<br>
>><br>
>> In your email to the community, you wrote<br>
>><br>
>> > I am surprised at the level of micro-management that CEO Alan<br>
>> Barrett has to deal with.<br>
>><br>
>> I have read the minutes and I could not see any trace that is related<br>
>> to “micro-management”. Rather the discussion revolved around the<br>
>> procedure to publish the judgement, who should publish the judgement,<br>
>> and the issue of NDA.<br>
>><br>
>> Could you please show me in the minutes the part that is dealing with<br>
>> the micro-management?<br>
>><br>
>> Thank you,<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Benjiloh<br>
>><br>
>> <br>
>><br>
>> On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 12:50 PM Sander Steffann <<a href="mailto:sander@steffann.nl%0b">sander@steffann.nl<br>
</a>>> <<a href="mailto:sander@steffann.nl">mailto:sander@steffann.nl</a>>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Hello,<br>
>><br>
>> I was just reading the board minutes at<br>
>> <a href="https://www.afrinic.net/ast/pdf/2019-minutes/20190305-minutes.pdf">
https://www.afrinic.net/ast/pdf/2019-minutes/20190305-minutes.pdf</a><br>
>> and I am surprised at the level of micro-management that CEO Alan<br>
>> Barrett has to deal with. In those minutes both Alan and Seun<br>
>> Ojedeji seem to be reprimanded for being open and transparent to<br>
>> this community. The summary of those minutes show how the board<br>
>> has made it explicitly clear that the CEO is to have no<br>
>> responsibility anymore towards this community.<br>
>><br>
>> Therefore I would like to explicitly and publicly express my<br>
>> gratitude to both Alan and Seun for their efforts to keep this<br>
>> community involved in Afrinic matters in an open and transparent<br>
>> way. I feel this is a strong requirement for keeping Afrinic<br>
>> respected and supported by both its members and its community.<br>
>><br>
>> Sincerely,<br>
>> Sander<br>
>><br>
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