<div dir="ltr">Exactly,you're right @Barry</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 8:47 AM Barry Macharia via Community-Discuss <<a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;">Food for thought <div><br></div><div>The day we learn to talk to each other rather at each other </div><div>we will achieve a lot for this continent and the Organisation at large </div><div><br></div><div>we can not be doing things the same way year in year out and we expect the organisation to grow </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Barry </div><div><br></div><div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 23 Feb 2019, at 18:53, Andrew Alston <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com" target="_blank">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="gmail-m_1130386529965528533Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div class="gmail-m_1130386529965528533WordSection1" style="font-family:Consolas;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Marcus –<span class="gmail-m_1130386529965528533Apple-converted-space"> </span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Am I in your head?  I have no idea – since I cannot read your mind (nor would I really want to – who knows what I might find)<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">So – if you’re gonna make statements like that – at least have the guts to put names to your accusations and spell them out with details – because vague insinuations and ad hominem attacks with no evidence are both boring – invalid – and a waste of the couple of bytes each email takes in our inboxes<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Andrew<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-width:1pt;border-top-color:rgb(181,196,223);padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt">From:<span class="gmail-m_1130386529965528533Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size:12pt">"Marcus K. G. Adomey" <<a href="mailto:madomey@hotmail.com" target="_blank">madomey@hotmail.com</a>><br><b>Date:<span class="gmail-m_1130386529965528533Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Saturday, 23 February 2019 at 16:39<br><b>To:<span class="gmail-m_1130386529965528533Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Alan Barrett <<a href="mailto:alan.barrett@afrinic.net" target="_blank">alan.barrett@afrinic.net</a>>, General Discussions of AFRINIC <<a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net" target="_blank">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a>>, Andrew Alston <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com" target="_blank">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>><br><b>Subject:<span class="gmail-m_1130386529965528533Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC 2019 AGMM quorum<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 12pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Hi Andrew,<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 12pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Are you " the destructive elements, credited and known for nothing more than failure"?<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">If YES, which evidence do you want?<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 12pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">If NO, what is pinching you?<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 12pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Those  obstructing AFRINIC AGMM know themselves  from Dakar to Kampala. Those  constantly  harassing AFRINIC  are also known.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 12pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">And those trying to seem relevant are also known.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 12pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Enjoy your weekend!!!<br><br><br><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Marcus<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;text-align:center"><hr size="2" width="98%" align="center"></div><div id="gmail-m_1130386529965528533divRplyFwdMsg"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span>From:</span></b><span><span class="gmail-m_1130386529965528533Apple-converted-space"> </span>Andrew Alston <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com" target="_blank">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>><br><b>Sent:</b><span class="gmail-m_1130386529965528533Apple-converted-space"> </span>Saturday, February 23, 2019 11:33:09 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="gmail-m_1130386529965528533Apple-converted-space"> </span>Marcus K. G. Adomey; Alan Barrett; General Discussions of AFRINIC<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="gmail-m_1130386529965528533Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC 2019 AGMM quorum</span><u></u><u></u></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> <u></u><u></u></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Dear Marcus,<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> <u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Rather than unsubstantiated grandiose claims with no evidence to back them up  – can I invite you to get specific – who are these individuals – and can you justify the claim that they are known for nothing more than failure.  Failure in what context?  Their lives? That’s a pretty wide statement to make about anyone – so I really am curious to hear how you justify this and to whom you refer, since – I know of no one on this list that is known for nothing more than failure.<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> <u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I know people on this list who are known for chairing pdp’s, who are known for implementing submarine networks, who are known for good work in IPv6 deployment, who are known for training at afnog, hell, I even know of someone known for claiming he would sue God – but known for nothing more than failure?  Nope, can’t quite figure out who you are talking about there<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> <u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Andrew<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> <u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> <u></u><u></u></div><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-width:1pt;border-top-color:rgb(181,196,223);padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt">From:<span class="gmail-m_1130386529965528533Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size:12pt">"Marcus K. G. Adomey" <<a href="mailto:madomey@hotmail.com" target="_blank">madomey@hotmail.com</a>><br><b>Date:<span class="gmail-m_1130386529965528533Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Saturday, 23 February 2019 at 10:30<br><b>To:<span class="gmail-m_1130386529965528533Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Alan Barrett <<a href="mailto:alan.barrett@afrinic.net" target="_blank">alan.barrett@afrinic.net</a>>, General Discussions of AFRINIC <<a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net" target="_blank">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a>>, Andrew Alston <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com" target="_blank">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>><br><b>Subject:<span class="gmail-m_1130386529965528533Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC 2019 AGMM quorum</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-se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NIC 2019 AGMM quorum</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> <u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 12pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><br><br>> On 22 Feb 2019, at 20:10, Sander Steffann <<a href="mailto:sander@steffann.nl" target="_blank">sander@steffann.nl</a>> wrote:<br>><span class="gmail-m_1130386529965528533Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> Hi Alan,<br>><span class="gmail-m_1130386529965528533Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>>> I can confirm that the judgement from the Mauritius Supreme Court exists.  I have in my possession a certified copy of the judgement from motion SC/COM/MOT/01411/2018, which anybody may obtain from the court registry.<br>><span class="gmail-m_1130386529965528533Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> Thanks for confirming that. Can you please just scan it and post it somewhere?<br><br>I attach it here.<br><br>Regards,<br><br>Alan Barrett<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 12pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> <u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><span style="font-family:Consolas;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">_______________________________________________</span><br style="font-family:Consolas;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Consolas;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">Community-Discuss mailing list</span><br style="font-family:Consolas;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Consolas;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline"><a href="mailto:Community-Discuss@afrinic.net" target="_blank">Community-Discuss@afrinic.net</a></span><br style="font-family:Consolas;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Consolas;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline"><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss</a></span></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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