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<p class="MsoNormal">The argument about conflict is simply non-sensical, since any person holding IP space on the continent is potentially conflicted in ANY policy through the PDP. The point of the PDP is to create policies which self-govern the use of resources
by members who hold the resources – that means that by definition, every single person who holds IP space is conflicted during the passage of any policy that goes anywhere near the use of IP space.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hence – this logic falls flat <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Andrew<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Benjamin Eshun <benjamin.eshun@gmail.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, 11 December 2018 at 03:09<br>
<b>To: </b>Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com><br>
<b>Cc: </b>General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Community-Discuss] Issue with non-AFRINIC Fellowship to Meeting -<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Owen,<br>
<br>
This thread is not about a particular policy as community is<br>
discussing two possible threats to Afrinic PDP and its governance in<br>
general.<br>
<br>
Your obstinacy to discuss and oppose review proposal everywhere and<br>
at any occasions, made me doubt and question your real relationship<br>
with Larus...<br>
<br>
Thank you for disclosing your work relationship with Larus.You are<br>
conflicted and I would expect you to observe ethics in this discussion<br>
affecting Larus holding 6 millions IPV4 and opposing the review<br>
proposal.<br>
<br>
Let's expect others who have worked or working with Larus to have the<br>
courage to also disclose.<br>
<br>
Policy discussions happen on rpd and must remain there. As for your<br>
claim about my support to the review proposal, I strongly believe in<br>
accountability and transparency. As you keep questioning board<br>
actions, I do support that those who has been granted "right to use"<br>
public resources be held accountable to them.<br>
<br>
RIR governance (*) is so important and i would like to see AFRINIC<br>
holding good position among the five RIRs and will always support<br>
actions aiming to improve governance and accountability.<br>
<br>
I have nor worked for Larus nor be sponsored by OIF, but I do know how<br>
OIF support has been instrumental to this community through, AFNOG,<br>
AFRICACERT, AFTLD..<br>
<br>
(*) <a href="https://www.nro.net/accountability/rir-accountability/rir-governance-matrix/">https://www.nro.net/accountability/rir-accountability/rir-governance-matrix/</a><br>
<br>
regards,<br>
<br>
Benjamin<br>
On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 7:19 AM Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> wrote:<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> > On Dec 10, 2018, at 06:35 , Benjamin Eshun <benjamin.eshun@gmail.com> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > Oga Sunday,<br>
> ><br>
> > On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 6:33 AM Sunday Folayan <sfolayan@gmail.com> wrote:<br>
> >><br>
> >> Lieutenant General Borg,<br>
> >><br>
> >> I agree to some parts about corrupt companies and innocent states.<br>
> >><br>
> >> It is corruption all the way, if the State owns the Company. Especially when the voice of the company is the voice of the Nation.<br>
> >><br>
> >> We are threading on thin boundaries here.<br>
> >><br>
> ><br>
> > It is not a matter of corrupted companies and innocent states.<br>
> ><br>
> > It is more about handling conflict of Interest and impact analysis<br>
> > of one company, member of Afrinic holding 6 millions of afrinic v4<br>
> > space mobilising people to hijack the PDP (where contribution are<br>
> > individual views) compared to Intergovernmental organisation like<br>
> > OIF sponsoring people to attend meetings.<br>
><br>
> Benjamin,<br>
><br>
> Once again, you make this claim, but do you have any evidence to support it?<br>
><br>
> While I have done some work for Larus, I have never been instructed by Larus on what opinion I should hold or express.<br>
><br>
> How is it hijacking the PDP when people make a cogent argument against a proposal? I realize you support the proposal. This does not mean that all opposition to the proposal is inherently corrupt and your constant specious claims to the contrary ignore several
facts:<br>
><br>
> 1. Multiple organizations are represented in the opposition.<br>
> 2. Many people who were not Larus fellows spoke in opposition to the proposal, myself included.<br>
> 3. Just because Larus sponsored someone’s travel to the meeting does not necessarily mean that they will<br>
> express an opinion with which they don’t agree. Certainly I would never do such a thing. You can be assured<br>
> that any opinion I ever express on this list or in any meeting is one which I hold personally. This proposal<br>
> is deeply flawed, unnecessary, and should be abandoned.<br>
><br>
> Unless you have evidence to the contrary, please, can we stop this contest of innuendo and rumor and get back to substantive discussion of proposed policies?<br>
><br>
> Thanks,<br>
><br>
> Owen<br>
><br>
<br>
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