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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">William,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">My only comment on this is as follows – when someone posts on the members list – they are posting as a member – if they represent multiple members – it could be any of those members. When someone posts on the community
list – they have the choice in each post to represent themselves or a corporate entity – or multiple corporate entities – and that can differ from time to time – day to day – post to post.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">If I state that I am writing on behalf of a particular entity – then I am writing on behalf of that entity – and I assure you that I do not do that without being duly authorised. If I state that I am writing on behalf
of myself and expressing my own opinions – then it is as stated. If I do not state either – you are free to ask on a post by post basis or assume that I am writing on my own behalf (or make any other assumptions you wish to make)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">That is my final word on this subject – unless the rules change to explicitly state that everyone posts their associations and who they are representing.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Andrew<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">William Ametozion <wametozion@gmail.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, 21 June 2018 at 22:40<br>
<b>To: </b>Janvier NGNOULAYE <jnoulaye@gmail.com><br>
<b>Cc: </b>AFRINIC Board of Directors' List <board@afrinic.net>, "community-discuss@afrinic.net" <community-discuss@afrinic.net>, Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>Hi Andrew,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Just a reminder. Yesterday, Janvier asked you the following question:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>“Please tell here if your statements here and questions engage yourself or your company?”<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>You have not answered it yet and I am sure it is an oversight. Could you please provide us with the answer? It is a simple and straight forward question and it should not take you so long to provide the answer.
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<p>Thanks<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>William A.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Jun 19, 2018 22:51, "Janvier NGNOULAYE" <<a href="mailto:jnoulaye@gmail.com">jnoulaye@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Dear Andrew,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">I wonder about your motives that seem inappropriate to me this last couple of months, in such that, with all respect due to you, I wanted to tell you to stop paying your $50k annual fee, and go rent your resources
to another RIR. Afrinic will not died.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Please tell here if your statements here and questions engage yourself or your company? Because it is inacceptable that a single member micromanages Afrinic, this is a lack of respect to the Afrinic body. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">I'm really shocked and got boring with your mails. The CEO should have never replied to it. I am not the one who have to ask you to wait for the financial annual report or the auditor's report at the AGMM
to ask these multiple questions.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">I think you're crossed over the line at this point, do you forget the principle that the CEO reports to the Board, and that the Board reports to members at an AGMM? Where do you come from with the questions
on the figures in the mid-year budget and particulary on sponsoring of the Cotonou event? </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">I also see that you're giving yourself too much liberty, to the point of asking ICANN if it is sponsoring the Cotonou event, this is again a lack of respect to the ICANN body.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">For the sake of the African Internet community, for the sake of the Afrinic members, and this is my recommandation to the Board: I am requesting the Board to put you under discipline because of these attitudes
that tarnish the image of Afrinic and its members.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Warm regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt">Janvier NGNOULAYE</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Afrinic Member</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Former Afrinic Board member </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Yaounde - Cameroon</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Le mar. 19 juin 2018 à 22:09, Andrew Alston <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com" target="_blank">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>> a écrit :<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB">Just wanted to add – did you think I would be embarrassed by you leaking that? Or attempt to deny it?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB">Dude – come on – get real – MANY people on that list that are on that group – if I was ashamed of that post – well – I wouldn’t have posted it where half this
list could already see it – as plain as day.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB">I do find it very interesting that you choose to take stuff off a group that has strict rules about external posts – and post it here for your own purposes.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Apple Color Emoji"">☺</span><span lang="EN-GB"> And I can guess who gave it to you – because its not hard to correlate members of this list
to members of that group – but *<b>shrug</b>* who cares – its as good as a public post – I don’t say things that I won’t stand by – I stand by that one</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB">Andrew</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">William Ametozion <<a href="mailto:wametozion@gmail.com" target="_blank">wametozion@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, 19 June 2018 at 23:19<br>
<b>To: </b>Andrew Alston <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com" target="_blank">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Alan Barrett <<a href="mailto:alan.barrett@afrinic.net" target="_blank">alan.barrett@afrinic.net</a>>, "<a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net" target="_blank">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net" target="_blank">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a>>,
AFRINIC Board of Directors' List <<a href="mailto:board@afrinic.net" target="_blank">board@afrinic.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Dear Community,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I came across a screenshot of a post (attached) by a member of AFRINIC Community on ICANN Facebook page and would like to share with you. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Yes we may not have attained all our goals but the truth must be told that we have made progress .<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">No matter how bitter one is, history of Internet in Africa cannot be changed based on someone’s whims and caprices. Indeed pioneers deserve commendation and not unbridled hatred
as shown. Africa deserves encouragement rather than this reckless attempt to destroy AFRINIC.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I cannot wait to be in Cotonou. Let us all including friends of Africa join in the Celebration of IG 1998 - 2018 on July 6, 2018.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thank you.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On 19 June 2018 at 13:21, Andrew Alston <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com" target="_blank">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB">Alan,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB">Does this include the cocktail sponsorship – if it does – can we calculate as follows based on previous trips to work out the approximate cost of attendance:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB">Average cost per person in flights (based on previous financials) - $2049.50</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB">Sponsorship $3000</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB">Accommodation while there since it’s a 2 day event - $500 odd dollars per person (conservatively)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB">5 total people</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB">Cost to the membership for this – roughly $16k?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB">I just wanna be sure I have the numbers straight here</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB">Andrew</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> 19 June 2018 16:15<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net" target="_blank">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> AFRINIC Board of Directors' List <<a href="mailto:board@afrinic.net" target="_blank">board@afrinic.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting<o:p></o:p></p>
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> On 15 Jun 2018, at 16:50, Andrew Alston <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com" target="_blank">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> So AfriNIC Board / Management – can you please disclose EXACTLY what was sponsored for this event – how much – who is going – and what are the members paying towards an event that is not even listed on your events calendar? I’d like to know how much of our
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AFRINIC is not organising the event in Cotonou on 6 July 2018, but was invited to participate. AFRINIC is contributing $3000 in sponsorship, and will cover the costs for attendance by the CEO, one or two other staff, and the Chair and Vice Chair of the Board.<br>
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Regards,<br>
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Alan Barrett<br>
CEO, AFRINIC<br>
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