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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">You mean the $10k to AFNOG who has not produced an audited financial statement in 10 years?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The $17k to sponsor other meetings unspecified?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The (Roughly) $62k spent flying staff to off continent meetings – with no explanation to the membership as to how this benefits the members who are
paying for it?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The combined 45 staff flown to the two AfriNIC meetings in 2017 – with no explanation as to why they were needed there (estimated cost of $90k)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The fact that staff cost actual to September 2017 was sitting at $1,382 million – and in one quarter suddenly rose by almost 40% to close the year
at $2,298,586 – I’d love to hear how you spend 40% of your HR budget in a quarter of the year – because if that’s bonuses – someone give me a job.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">And so the questions keep coming – all the questions we were not permitted to ask at the AGMM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Saul Stein [mailto:saul@enetworks.co.za]
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<b>Sent:</b> 19 June 2018 17:31<br>
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<b>Cc:</b> community-discuss@afrinic.net; AFRINIC Board of Directors' List <board@afrinic.net><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Spam] Re: [Community-Discuss] [Board-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-ZA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Actually these questions and answers are rather interesting. We weren’t allowed to ask them at the AGMM, so I guess now
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-ZA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I am intrigued to see how much money is given to organisations that don’t seem to have accountability what they get.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Omo Oaiya [<a href="mailto:Omo.Oaiya@wacren.net">mailto:Omo.Oaiya@wacren.net</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> 19 June 2018 04:11 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Andrew Alston <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a>; AFRINIC Board of Directors' List <<a href="mailto:board@afrinic.net">board@afrinic.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Spam] Re: [Community-Discuss] [Board-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-ZA">Andrew,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-ZA">I try to avoid you so I don’t get drawn into time-wasting discussions. I guess I am reacting to your flippant disregard for AFRINIC origins and your attempt to disparage those that have worked to get us here. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-ZA">On 19 Jun 2018, at 14:51, Andrew Alston <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-ZA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">As a member that contributes fees to the organisation – at a rate of almost $50k a year – I have every single right in the world – to understand how that money
is being spent. And I will continue to ask – especially when an event is being held that is being paid for that is not on any event calendar.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-ZA">I have not suggested you do not have the right to question. I have queried their nature and more importantly the availability of the CEO to respond question by question. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-ZA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">While I realize that the organisation you work for – got their space on the back of a grant and didn’t even pay the allocation fee or the first few years of having
it – and you are a small member – so its tiny amounts of money – others of us – actually would like to know where our cash is being spent to guide other decisions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-ZA"> I am a small member who does not expect this level of micromanagement from a CEO.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Omo
Oaiya [<a href="mailto:Omo.Oaiya@wacren.net"><span style="color:purple">mailto:Omo.Oaiya@wacren.net</span></a>]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>19 June 2018 16:47<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net"><span style="color:purple">community-discuss@afrinic.net</span></a>; AFRINIC Board of Directors' List <<a href="mailto:board@afrinic.net"><span style="color:purple">board@afrinic.net</span></a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Community-Discuss] [Board-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting</span><span lang="EN-ZA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-ZA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">This line of questioning is unnecessary and unbecoming. I am surprised the CEO has time to respond to this.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-ZA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Omo<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-ZA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">On 19 Jun 2018, at 14:40, Andrew Alston <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com"><span style="color:purple">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</span></a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-ZA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Sorry,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-ZA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Last question – why is this event not on the AFRINIC Event calendar (or the ISOC event calendar)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Alan
Barrett [<a href="mailto:alan.barrett@afrinic.net"><span style="color:purple">mailto:alan.barrett@afrinic.net</span></a>]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>19 June 2018 16:31<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net"><span style="color:purple">community-discuss@afrinic.net</span></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>AFRINIC Board of Directors' List <<a href="mailto:board@afrinic.net"><span style="color:purple">board@afrinic.net</span></a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Community-Discuss] [Board-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting</span><span lang="EN-ZA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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> On 19 Jun 2018, at 17:21, Andrew Alston <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com"><span style="color:purple">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</span></a>> wrote:<br>
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> Does this include the cocktail sponsorship<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
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The sponsorship is a lump sum. There is no additional or separate amount for a cocktail.<br>
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> – if it does – can we calculate as follows based on previous trips to work out the approximate cost of attendance:<br>
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> Average cost per person in flights (based on previous financials) - $2049.50<br>
> Sponsorship $3000<br>
> Accommodation while there since it’s a 2 day event - $500 odd dollars per person (conservatively)<br>
> 5 total people<br>
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> Cost to the membership for this – roughly $16k?<br>
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That sounds plausible, though it's more likely to be 4 people, not 5.<br>
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