<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Andrew,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I try to avoid you so I don’t get drawn into time-wasting discussions. I guess I am reacting to your flippant disregard for AFRINIC origins and your attempt to disparage those that have worked to get us here. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 19 Jun 2018, at 14:51, Andrew Alston <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com" class="">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">Omo,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">As a member that contributes fees to the organisation – at a rate of almost $50k a year – I have every single right in the world – to understand how that money is being spent. And I will continue to ask – especially when an event is being held that is being paid for that is not on any event calendar.</span></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""></div>I have not suggested you do not have the right to question. I have queried their nature and more importantly the availability of the CEO to respond question by question. </div><div><br class=""></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">While I realize that the organisation you work for – got their space on the back of a grant and didn’t even pay the allocation fee or the first few years of having it – and you are a small member – so its tiny amounts of money – others of us – actually would like to know where our cash is being spent to guide other decisions.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div> I am a small member who does not expect this level of micromanagement from a CEO.<br class=""><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""></div></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">Andrew<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Omo Oaiya [<a href="mailto:Omo.Oaiya@wacren.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mailto:Omo.Oaiya@wacren.net</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>19 June 2018 16:47<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a>; AFRINIC Board of Directors' List <<a href="mailto:board@afrinic.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">board@afrinic.net</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Community-Discuss] [Board-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">This line of questioning is unnecessary and unbecoming. I am surprised the CEO has time to respond to this.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Omo<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">On 19 Jun 2018, at 14:40, Andrew Alston <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Sorry,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Last question – why is this event not on the AFRINIC Event calendar (or the ISOC event calendar)<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Andrew<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" class=""> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" class="">Alan Barrett [<a href="mailto:alan.barrett@afrinic.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: purple;" class="">mailto:alan.barrett@afrinic.net</span></a>]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>19 June 2018 16:31<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: purple;" class="">community-discuss@afrinic.net</span></a><br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>AFRINIC Board of Directors' List <<a href="mailto:board@afrinic.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: purple;" class="">board@afrinic.net</span></a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Community-Discuss] [Board-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""><br class="">> On 19 Jun 2018, at 17:21, Andrew Alston <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: purple;" class="">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</span></a>> wrote:<br class="">><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Alan,<br class="">><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Does this include the cocktail sponsorship<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">The sponsorship is a lump sum. There is no additional or separate amount for a cocktail.<br class=""><br class="">> – if it does – can we calculate as follows based on previous trips to work out the approximate cost of attendance:<br class="">><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Average cost per person in flights (based on previous financials) - $2049.50<br class="">> Sponsorship $3000<br class="">> Accommodation while there since it’s a 2 day event - $500 odd dollars per person (conservatively)<br class="">> 5 total people<br class="">><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Cost to the membership for this – roughly $16k?<br class=""><br class="">That sounds plausible, though it's more likely to be 4 people, not 5.<br class=""><br class="">Alan Barrett<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Community-Discuss mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Community-Discuss@afrinic.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: purple;" class="">Community-Discuss@afrinic.net</span></a><br class=""><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: purple;" class="">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Community-Discuss mailing list<br class=""></span><a href="mailto:Community-Discuss@afrinic.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: purple;" class="">Community-Discuss@afrinic.net</span></a><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""></span><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: purple;" class="">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss</span></a></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>