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    <p><font color="#330099">Hi Mark</font></p>
    <p><font color="#330099">My comments inline</font><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 30/05/2018 à 19:13, Mark Elkins a
      écrit :<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 30/05/2018 19:20, Arnaud AMELINA
        wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAGDMR_dnXSu3T-i4DX3T0+jbWm-n=yzrddXYuHPf+tTd70X6zg@mail.gmail.com">
        <div dir="ltr">Owen, <br>
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            <div class="gmail_quote">2018-05-29 22:34 GMT+00:00 Owen
              DeLong <span dir="ltr"><<a
                  href="mailto:owen@delong.com" target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">owen@delong.com</a>></span>:<br>
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                  <div>While I agree that additional clarity is needed
                    and I agree that there is some validity to the claim
                    that none of the above MAY not have been a
                    legitimate choice to place on the ballot, I think we
                    cannot go changing the rules of the election and
                    violating the expectations of the voters,
                    membership, and community after the election has
                    run.</div>
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              </div>
              <div>Voters, membership and community are saying:
                <<a mistake has been made; let's fix it!>><br>
              </div>
            </div>
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      <br>
      And members are saying "We are happy with the outcome" (I am,
      anyway). The only folk that should be commenting on this are the
      voting membership.<br>
    </blockquote>
    <font color="#330099">Why is the former board member and board chair
      so nervous about the scope of this discussion?  This is a matter
      of concern for the community at large. This is not a remake of the
      elections. Or maybe,  it is time to listen to the other 1409
      members who did not vote?<br>
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      cite="mid:c542107b-625b-c998-bcf5-6f1e191f3aa8@posix.co.za"> <br>
      <blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:CAGDMR_dnXSu3T-i4DX3T0+jbWm-n=yzrddXYuHPf+tTd70X6zg@mail.gmail.com">
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                  <div>Nobody raised an objection to the presence of
                    none of the above on the ballot for seat 2 prior to
                    or during the election.</div>
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              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>No one is raising objection even now on  this option
                being on the ballot as the guidelines are clear on that.
                the issue at hand is the correct implementation  of the
                guidelines as written.<br>
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              <div> </div>
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                  <div>Since there were more than enough voters who
                    selected none of the above to change the result
                    among the remaining two candidates, it is not
                    legitimate to simply discard the none of the above
                    votes and declare one of those candidates a winner.
                    Indeed, I would argue that is the worst possible
                    choice among all other options.</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>The other options as I see it are:</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div><span class="gmail-m_-1039780601104480525Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap">   </span>1.<span class="gmail-m_-1039780601104480525Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Allow
                    the board to treat the seat as vacant and appoint a
                    board member until the</div>
                  <div><span class="gmail-m_-1039780601104480525Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap">           </span>next
                    AGMM.</div>
                  <div><br>
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                  <div><span class="gmail-m_-1039780601104480525Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap">   </span>2.<span class="gmail-m_-1039780601104480525Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Treat
                    none of the above as a valid election result (in
                    which case it should be</div>
                  <div><span class="gmail-m_-1039780601104480525Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap">           </span>considered
                    the same for all 3 seats) and preclude the board
                    from appointing</div>
                  <div><span class="gmail-m_-1039780601104480525Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap">           </span>anyone
                    to the seat(s) until an election can be run.</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div><br>
                    <div><span class="gmail-m_-1039780601104480525Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>3.<span class="gmail-m_-1039780601104480525Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Treat
                      none of the above as a valid election result only
                      for seat 2 and preclude</div>
                    <div><span class="gmail-m_-1039780601104480525Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap">         </span>the
                      board from appointing seat 2 while still allowing
                      them to appoint seats 5</div>
                    <div><span class="gmail-m_-1039780601104480525Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap">         </span>and
                      6.</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>As I see it, the best option is option 1. It
                      allows the organization to proceed with a full
                      board until the next AGMM where a hopefully more
                      effective election can be accomplished.</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>I think option 2 is bad because it leaves the
                      board precariously short-handed with only 5 of the
                      expected 8 members, including the CEO. (The 3
                      elected members which remain, whoever is appointed
                      to fill Haitham’s vacancy, and the CEO).</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>The problem I have with option 3 is I have
                      trouble justifying treating the election of “none
                      of the above” differently in this circumstance
                      than in the case of a single unopposed candidate.
                      In both cases, more voters felt that they didn’t
                      want any of the options on the ballot and voted
                      not to elect any fo the candidates. The outcome
                      is, IMHO, the same regardless of the number of
                      candidates and should be handled identically.</div>
                  </div>
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              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>
                <div>Why? There are places in the world where "none of
                  the above" is on ballot and has not effect on the
                  results <br>
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      <br>
      What would the point of that be then - or are people confusing
      "None of the above" with "Abstain" ?<br>
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    <font color="#330099">The guidelines  say:<br>
      "The ballot paper should provide voters with the option to not
      vote for any candidate (a. k.a. "None of the Above")"<br>
      It does not say to "reject all  the proposed candidate". <br>
      It says to not vote  for any candidate and the guidelines states
      that , the candidate with the highest votes wins.<br>
      Let us stop  this harmful interpretation.</font><br>
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                <div>and candidates with the highest votes wins. It is
                  matter of the elections rules. In the current
                   situation,  the guidelines are clear  and explicit
                   on how we should  handle the results. So let follow
                  it and engage on discussions  for amending the rules
                   if we see need to do so.</div>
              </div>
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      <br>
      I was on the Board when this was introduced (6 or so years back?).
      Its doing exactly what it was intended to - that if a person does
      not like *anyone* on the list of choices - the member can instead
      select "none of the above". Why does this seem so hard to grasp? </blockquote>
    <font color="#330099">Can you point to board meeting minutes,
      resolutions or any other document   which support your statement? 
      Some seems to refuse to read the guidelines  and just regurgitate
      whatever works for them.<br>
      The guidelines are clear and may have not been written to match
      your statement.<br>
      <br>
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      cite="mid:c542107b-625b-c998-bcf5-6f1e191f3aa8@posix.co.za">I also
      fail to understand why this is fine when there is only one natural
      person on the list but not fine when there is more than one
      natural person on the list.<br>
    </blockquote>
    <font color="#330099">One explanation:<br>
      When I only have one candidate, the vote becomes a "yes" or " no"
      vote . I need a way to count the "no" vote.<br>
      a- change the ballot to  "yes" or " no", "in favor" or "against "<br>
      b- use  natural candidate and " none of the above"<br>
      We were  using b)<br>
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                    <div>Hopefully additional clarity can be achieved
                      prior to the next election and we won’t have to
                      face this issue again. Personally, I like the idea
                      of having “none of the above” as an option in all
                      cases.</div>
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              <div><br>
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              <div>Clarity and fairness is the outcome of the complaint
                regarding seat 2 here imho; for the rest we can agree to
                disagree.<br>
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      <br>
      I agree to agree with Owen.<br>
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                        <div>Owen</div>
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              <div>Thanks</div>
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                            <div>On May 29, 2018, at 14:56 , Arnaud
                              AMELINA <<a
                                href="mailto:amelnaud@gmail.com"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">amelnaud@gmail.com</a>>
                              wrote:</div>
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                              <div dir="ltr">Dear Ashok as a lawyer you
                                know that there is the law and spirit of
                                the law, please read bellow  <br>
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                                  <div class="gmail_quote">2018-05-25
                                    11:18 GMT+00:00 Ashok <span
                                      dir="ltr"><<a
                                        href="mailto:ashok@afrinic.net"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">ashok@afrinic.net</a>></span>:<br>
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                                      <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Dear All,<br>
                                        I apologize for having  missed
                                        your rejoinder to my mail.<br>
                                      </div>
                                    </blockquote>
                                    <div> </div>
                                    <div>Despite the delays, we
                                      appreciate your response as the
                                      matter is of great concern.</div>
                                    <div> </div>
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                                      <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Your first
                                        question regards the reason as
                                        to why the same principle has
                                        been applied to the election for
                                        Seat 2 <br>
                                        notwithstanding the fact that
                                        there were two candidates.<br>
                                        My response is that an election
                                        cannot be run on different
                                        principles. In this particular
                                        election the option "none of the
                                        above " was <br>
                                        introduced for the first time
                                        and everyone was aware of this
                                        and it applied to all the
                                        elections held on that day. The
                                        Election guidelines were amended
                                        to acomodate this option.<br>
                                      </div>
                                    </blockquote>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>Yes indeed and the elections
                                      guidelines explicitely addressed
                                      the case of only a single
                                      candidate running for election and
                                      the option " none of the above" in
                                      this case got more votes than the
                                      sole candidate but is very silent
                                      in the case of multiple candidates
                                      running for elections with the
                                      option "none of the above" getting
                                      more votes. <br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <div>Anytime elections involve the
                                        option "none of the above",
                                        there are always clear rules on
                                        how the results are interpreted
                                        and the actions that must be
                                        taken when the option "none of
                                        the above" get more votes than
                                        the multiple candidates. </div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>It's not my intention to
                                        teach you something here, but it
                                        does look very bizarre that the
                                        legal counsel never bothered to
                                        help the board to make  the
                                        guidelines unambiguous  and
                                        conform to members expectations.</div>
                                    </div>
                                    <div> </div>
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                                        Consequently this option has to
                                        be taken in consideration when
                                        finalising the results.<br>
                                        Where there were two candidates.
                                        The options for voters were (1)
                                        yes for candidate (1)-((2) yes
                                        for candidate 2-(3) yes for non
                                        of the above.Each one is
                                        mutually exclusive.<br>
                                        Each score to be counted
                                        separately. The majority for
                                        either option wins the day. </div>
                                    </blockquote>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <div>Following  your reasoning
                                        above and the guidelines which
                                        say the candidate with the
                                        highest votes win, the members
                                        and community should then accept
                                        "none of the above" as the
                                        elected candidate and seated
                                        although "none of the above "
                                        did not go through Nomcom and
                                        was not listed on the candidates
                                        slates  published by Nomcom.</div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>Which means seat 2 should not
                                        be declared vacant to be filled
                                        by board.</div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>Filling  seat 2 by board
                                        would constitute the violation
                                        of "none  of the above" rights
                                        and of our rules and thus expose
                                        us to legal litigation.</div>
                                    </div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div> </div>
                                    <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                                      style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                                      <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF">One should
                                        not create a fictitious majority
                                        by adding votes polled by (1)
                                        & (2) together. The real
                                        majority was to all intents and
                                        purposes the option which polled
                                        the most votes. There is no need
                                        to extrapolate or interpret. <br>
                                      </div>
                                    </blockquote>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <div>There is No fictitious
                                        majority being created. It was
                                        just an example of how this case
                                        could have been interpreted just
                                        like you do have your own
                                        interpretation. </div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>In many cases,  abstention is
                                        compared to voters in order to
                                        decide how to proceed with
                                         validating an election and
                                        counting results..</div>
                                    </div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div> </div>
                                    <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                                      style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                                      <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Where
                                        there was one candidate there
                                        were two options- Yes for the
                                        single candidate or yes for 
                                        "non of the above"<br>
                                      </div>
                                    </blockquote>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>The case of a sole candidate is
                                      clear as per the guidelines and
                                      there are no objections on seat 5
                                      and 6 results.<br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div> </div>
                                    <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                                      style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                                      <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> My
                                        reference to Art 10.2 was based
                                        on the decision of the members
                                        present at  past AGMMs to have
                                        the option of rejecting a single
                                        candidate or to give their
                                        approval to the single
                                        candidate, This has occurred
                                        more than once.<br>
                                      </div>
                                    </blockquote>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>And once again,  the case of a
                                      single candidate is handled as
                                      members agreed to and not debated<br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <div>Thank you</div>
                                    </div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div> </div>
                                    <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                                      style="margin:0px 0px 0px
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                                      <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Legal
                                        Counsel AFRINIC.
                                        <div>
                                          <div
                                            class="gmail-m_-1039780601104480525gmail-h5"><br>
                                            <br>
                                            <div
class="gmail-m_-1039780601104480525gmail-m_5703073448157574545moz-cite-prefix">On
                                              24/05/2018 21:11, Arnaud
                                              AMELINA wrote:<br>
                                            </div>
                                            <blockquote type="cite">
                                              <div dir="auto">
                                                <div>
                                                  <div dir="auto">Dear
                                                    CEO and Chairman</div>
                                                  <div dir="auto"><br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div dir="auto">It
                                                    looks like the Legal
                                                    counsel has not
                                                     responded to this
                                                    query bellow  
                                                    regarding this very
                                                    important issue
                                                    about the recently
                                                    concluded
                                                    elections. </div>
                                                  <div dir="auto"><br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div dir="auto">Could
                                                    you kindly remind
                                                    him?  </div>
                                                  <div dir="auto"><br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div dir="auto">Let us
                                                    address this to a
                                                    good conclusion in
                                                    order to enforce the
                                                    respect of our rules
                                                    and processes.</div>
                                                  <div dir="auto"><br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  Regards </div>
                                                <div dir="auto"><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div dir="auto">Arnaud <br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <div
                                                    class="gmail_quote"
                                                    dir="auto">
                                                    <div dir="ltr">Le
                                                      sam. 19 mai 2018
                                                      11:40, Omo Oaiya
                                                      <<a
                                                        href="mailto:Omo.Oaiya@wacren.net"
                                                        target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">Omo.Oaiya@wacren.net</a>> a écrit :<br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <blockquote
                                                      class="gmail_quote"
                                                      style="margin:0px
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                                                      <div dir="ltr">
                                                        <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>Dear
                                                          Legal Counsel,<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Thanks
                                                          for your
                                                          input.  Much
                                                          appreciated. </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Your
                                                          statements
                                                          reinforce the
                                                          interpretation
                                                          of section 9.2
                                                          of the
                                                          guidelines
                                                          with the
                                                          origin of the
                                                          "none of the
                                                          above" option
                                                          in the
                                                          election
                                                          process and
                                                          how votes for
                                                          this option
                                                          are considered
                                                          in the case of
                                                          one candidate
                                                          running for
                                                          election for a
                                                          seat. [Last
                                                          bullet point] <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Case in
                                                          which the
                                                          election
                                                          becomes a
                                                          "yes" or "no" 
                                                          vote for the
                                                          only
                                                          candidate. 
                                                           This point is
                                                          clear and
                                                          accepted and
                                                          the objection
                                                          is not for the
                                                          results for
                                                          seat 5 and 6.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>What has
                                                          not been
                                                          clarified is
                                                          how the same
                                                          principle came
                                                          to be applied
                                                          for the
                                                          elections for
                                                          seat 2 which
                                                          had two
                                                          candidates
                                                          running for
                                                          the seat, one
                                                          of whom got
                                                          higher votes
                                                          than the
                                                          other, with
                                                          the total
                                                          number of
                                                          members
                                                          casting votes
                                                          in excess of
                                                          those opting
                                                          out.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>You
                                                          also referred
                                                          to art 10.2 of
                                                          the
                                                          constitution but
                                                          did not
                                                          elaborate on
                                                          the precedence
                                                          that occurred
                                                          that has
                                                          become an
                                                          integral part
                                                          of
                                                          our guidelines. 
                                                          As precedence
                                                          automatically
                                                          becomes part
                                                          of the
                                                          election
                                                          guidelines, it
                                                          is important
                                                          that we
                                                          address issues
                                                          which come up
                                                          around the
                                                          election with
                                                          care and
                                                          unambiguously. </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div
style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Can
                                                          you be so kind
                                                          to clarify? </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Best
                                                          wishes</div>
                                                          <div>Omo</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>PS: 
                                                          Grateful to
                                                          listers to
                                                          please
                                                          keep this
                                                          thread
                                                          confined to
                                                          the subject.</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">On
                                                          17 May 2018 at
                                                          17:17, Ashok <span
                                                          dir="ltr"><<a
href="mailto:ashok@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true">ashok@afrinic.net</a>></span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div
                                                          bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
                                                          Dear Members
                                                          and Community,<br>
                                                          Mt views have
                                                          been sought on
                                                          the matter
                                                          under
                                                          reference.<br>
                                                          Please find
                                                          same
                                                          hereunder.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div
class="gmail-m_-1039780601104480525gmail-m_5703073448157574545m_4753288495632542585m_-8469710531738800970gmail-m_6469985645637664215moz-cite-prefix">On
                                                          17/05/2018
                                                          14:04, B
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"><b><u>The
                                                          Election
                                                          Process and
                                                          last AGMM.</u></b></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="line-height:normal">The appointment of Directors is carried out
                                                          during an AGMM
                                                          of the Company
                                                          –Art 13.1 of
                                                          the
                                                          constitution.</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="line-height:normal">The election of the Directors is carried out
                                                          in terms of
                                                          Art 13.2 of
                                                          the
                                                          constitution
                                                          which refers
                                                          expressly to
                                                          the election
                                                          process
                                                          approved by
                                                          the Board.</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="line-height:normal">Moreover<span>  </span>Art 10.2 of the
                                                          Constitution
                                                          refers to
                                                          precedent
                                                          applied during
                                                          an AFRINIC
                                                          election and
                                                          which de facto
                                                          become part of
                                                          the election
                                                          guidelines. </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="line-height:normal">The election process<span>  </span>as it
                                                          stands today
                                                          is the one
                                                          which was
                                                          applied during<span> 
                                                          </span>the
                                                          elections held
                                                          during the
                                                          last AGMM
                                                          without any
                                                          opposition.</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="line-height:normal">This is what it provides:</p>
                                                          <span
class="gmail-m_-1039780601104480525gmail-m_5703073448157574545m_4753288495632542585m_-8469710531738800970gmail-">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="line-height:normal"><b><span>9.2 Paper Ballot on Election Day</span></b></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="line-height:normal"><span>The voting conducted during the Annual
                                                          General
                                                          Members'
                                                          Meeting is
                                                          carried out
                                                          via paper
                                                          ballots
                                                          containing a
                                                          list of
                                                          candidate
                                                          names and a
                                                          ballot number.
                                                          Prior to the
                                                          vote, all
                                                          members
                                                          present or
                                                          participants
                                                          holding a
                                                          proxy will be
                                                          requested to
                                                          register and
                                                          validate their
                                                          membership
                                                          status.</span></p>
                                                          </span>
                                                          <ul
                                                          type="disc">
                                                          <ul
                                                          type="circle">
                                                          <ul
                                                          type="square">
                                                          <span
class="gmail-m_-1039780601104480525gmail-m_5703073448157574545m_4753288495632542585m_-8469710531738800970gmail-">
                                                          <li
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="line-height:normal"><span>Voters should only vote for one
                                                          candidate per
category/region. Each mark on a ballot paper represents one vote. A
                                                          ballot with
                                                          more than one
                                                          mark per
                                                          category/region
                                                          will be
                                                          considered
                                                          spoilt, and
                                                          not be
                                                          counted.</span></li>
                                                          <li
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="line-height:normal"><span>The ballot paper should provide voters
                                                          with the
                                                          option to not
                                                          vote for any
                                                          candidate
                                                          (a.k.a. "None
                                                          of the
                                                          Above").</span></li>
                                                          <li
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="line-height:normal"><span>This will be a secret ballot election.
                                                          An inclusion
                                                          of any
                                                          personal data
                                                          on the ballot
                                                          paper will
                                                          invalidate the
                                                          vote and will
                                                          be counted as
                                                          spoilt.</span></li>
                                                          <li
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="line-height:normal"><span>Elections will be closed as soon as the
                                                          last member or
                                                          proxy present
                                                          in the meeting
                                                          room casts
                                                          his/her vote.
                                                          Candidates
                                                          with the
                                                          highest number
                                                          of votes in
                                                          each category
                                                          will be
                                                          declared
                                                          winners.</span></li>
                                                          <li
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="line-height:normal"><span>In the event of a tie for an open
                                                          position,
                                                          voting for
                                                          that position
                                                          will be
                                                          repeated (Only
                                                          by paper
                                                          ballot) the
                                                          same day until
                                                          there is a
                                                          winner.</span></li>
                                                          </span><span
class="gmail-m_-1039780601104480525gmail-m_5703073448157574545m_4753288495632542585m_-8469710531738800970gmail-">
                                                          <li
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="line-height:normal"><span>All open positions shall be subject to
                                                          an election
                                                          process even
                                                          if there is
                                                          only one
                                                          candidate. In
                                                          that event, if
                                                          the option
                                                          [none of the
                                                          above] got
                                                          more votes
                                                          than the only
                                                          candidate,
                                                          then the seat
                                                          shall be
                                                          considered
                                                          vacant and the
                                                          Board will be
                                                          requested</span><span>
                                                          </span><span>to
                                                          apply
                                                          provisions of
                                                          the Bylaws to
                                                          temporarily
                                                          fill the
                                                          vacant seat</span></li>
                                                          </span>
                                                          </ul>
                                                          </ul>
                                                          </ul>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="line-height:normal">The last amendment of the election guidelines
                                                          introduced the
                                                          voting option
                                                          “ None of the
                                                          Above”. –(Vide
                                                          second bullet
                                                          point
                                                          above.)Those
                                                          voters who
                                                          have cast
                                                          their votes
                                                          for “ None of
                                                          the Above”
                                                          have done so
                                                          in compliance
                                                          with the
                                                          prevailing<span> 
                                                          </span>constitution
                                                          <span> </span>and
                                                          these are thus
                                                          valid votes.
                                                          Every voter
                                                          was aware of
                                                          the new
                                                          option.<span></span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="line-height:normal">The election guidelines are clear as to what
                                                          happens when
                                                          the “ None of
                                                          the Above”
                                                          option has a
                                                          majority.-
                                                          (Vide last
                                                          bullet point
                                                          above.)</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="line-height:normal">The election guidelines must be read as a
                                                          whole and all
                                                          the provisions
                                                          read together.</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="line-height:normal">Legal Counsel –AFRINIC</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="line-height:normal">17.05.2018</p>
                                                          oubakar Barry
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div
class="gmail-m_-1039780601104480525gmail-m_5703073448157574545m_4753288495632542585m_-8469710531738800970gmail-h5">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <span></span>
                                                          <p
                                                          style="margin-bottom:0.08in"><font
                                                          face="Arial,
                                                          sans-serif"><font
                                                          size="2">Hello
                                                          Board and
                                                          Legal Counsel,</font></font></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          style="margin-bottom:0.08in"><font
                                                          face="Arial,
                                                          sans-serif"><font
                                                          size="2"><span
                                                          lang="en-GB">Good
                                                          that Omo
                                                          spotted this.
                                                          </span></font></font>
                                                          </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          style="margin-bottom:0.08in"><font
                                                          face="Arial,
                                                          sans-serif"><font
                                                          size="2"><span
                                                          lang="en-GB">It’s
                                                          a matter of
                                                          applying the
                                                          board election
                                                          process
                                                          adopted by the
                                                          board
                                                          according to
                                                          section 13.2
                                                          of the bylaws.
                                                          </span></font></font>
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                                                          <p
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                                                          face="Arial,
                                                          sans-serif"><font
                                                          size="2"><span
                                                          lang="en-GB"><a
href="https://afrinic.net/en/community/elections/bod-election/process"
                                                          rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://afrinic.net/en/communi<wbr>ty/elections/bod-election/<wbr>process</a>
                                                          describes the
                                                          process and
                                                          section 9
                                                          spells out how
                                                          to interpret
                                                          the results in
                                                          the case there
                                                          are more than
                                                          one candidate
                                                          and in the
                                                          case there is
                                                          only one
                                                          candidate.
                                                          These two
                                                          cases are
                                                          addressed
                                                          separately and
                                                          differently.</span></font></font></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          style="margin-bottom:0.08in"><font
                                                          face="Arial,
                                                          sans-serif"><font
                                                          size="2"><span
                                                          lang="en-GB">It’s
                                                          important to
                                                          hear from the
                                                          Board and the
                                                          Legal Counsel,
                                                          as the
                                                          elections can
                                                          be challenged.</span></font></font></p>
                                                          <p
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                                                          face="Arial,
                                                          sans-serif"><font
                                                          size="2"><span
                                                          lang="en-GB">Please
                                                          advise.</span></font></font></p>
                                                          <p
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                                                          face="Arial,
                                                          sans-serif"><font
                                                          size="2"><span
                                                          lang="en-GB">Regards.<br>
                                                          </span></font></font></p>
                                                          <p
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                                                          face="Arial,
                                                          sans-serif"><font
                                                          size="2"><span
                                                          lang="en-GB">Boubakar</span></font></font></p>
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                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">On
                                                          Wed, May 16,
                                                          2018 at 5:24
                                                          PM, Omo Oaiya
                                                          <span
                                                          dir="ltr"><<a
href="mailto:Omo.Oaiya@wacren.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true">Omo.Oaiya@wacren.net</a>></span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
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style="margin:0px 0px 0px
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                                                          style="word-wrap:break-word">
                                                          <div>Greetings
                                                          All,</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>I am
                                                          looking at the
                                                          BoD election
                                                          process and it
                                                          seems to me
                                                          that the
                                                          recent e-mail
                                                          from the Board
                                                          Chair seeking
                                                          nominations
                                                          for vacant
                                                          seats should
                                                          not be
                                                          extended to
                                                          Western
                                                          Africa.  </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>The
                                                          particular
                                                          clause I am
                                                          referring to
                                                          is in 9.2 - <a
href="https://afrinic.net/en/community/elections/bod-election/process"
                                                          rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://afrinic.net/en/commu<wbr>nity/elections/bod-election/<wbr>process</a></div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">
                                                          <ul
style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Helvetica,Arial,FreeSans,sans-serif;font-variant-ligatures:normal;background-color:rgb(238,238,238)">
                                                          <li><br
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                                                          Elections will
                                                          be closed as
                                                          soon as the
                                                          last member or
                                                          proxy present
                                                          in the meeting
                                                          room casts
                                                          his/her vote.
                                                          Candidates
                                                          with the
                                                          highest number
                                                          of votes in
                                                          each category
                                                          will be
                                                          declared
                                                          winners</li>
                                                          </ul>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>I see
                                                          from the list
                                                          for West
                                                          Africa that
                                                          the candidate
                                                          with the
                                                          highest number
                                                          of votes
                                                          should have
                                                          been declared
                                                          winner and
                                                          this is Dr
                                                          Ousmane Tessa.
                                                           (btw, Dr
                                                          Adewale
                                                          Adedokun needs
                                                          his name spelt
                                                          correctly)</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">
                                                          <p
style="margin-top:5px;margin-bottom:5px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Helvetica,Arial,FreeSans,sans-serif;font-variant-ligatures:normal;background-color:rgb(238,238,238)"><br>
                                                          <b>Western
                                                          Africa - Seat
                                                          2</b></p>
                                                          <p
style="margin-top:5px;margin-bottom:5px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Helvetica,Arial,FreeSans,sans-serif;font-variant-ligatures:normal;background-color:rgb(238,238,238)">Dr
                                                          Adelawe
                                                          Abedekon - 43</p>
                                                          <p
style="margin-top:5px;margin-bottom:5px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Helvetica,Arial,FreeSans,sans-serif;font-variant-ligatures:normal;background-color:rgb(238,238,238)">Dr
                                                          Ousmane Moussa
                                                          Tessa - 56</p>
                                                          <p
style="margin-top:5px;margin-bottom:5px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Helvetica,Arial,FreeSans,sans-serif;font-variant-ligatures:normal;background-color:rgb(238,238,238)">None
                                                          of the above -
                                                          78</p>
                                                          <p
style="margin-top:5px;margin-bottom:5px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Helvetica,Arial,FreeSans,sans-serif;font-variant-ligatures:normal;background-color:rgb(238,238,238)"><i>Result:
                                                          The seat is
                                                          vacant</i></p>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>The
                                                          results from
                                                          the other
                                                          regions are
                                                          valid and
                                                          supported by
                                                          the following
                                                          clause as they
                                                          had one
                                                          candidate. </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">
                                                          <ul
style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Helvetica,Arial,FreeSans,sans-serif;font-variant-ligatures:normal;background-color:rgb(238,238,238)">
                                                          <ul>
                                                          <li>All open
                                                          positions
                                                          shall be
                                                          subject to an
                                                          election
                                                          process even
                                                          if there is
                                                          only one
                                                          candidate. In
                                                          that event, if
                                                          the option
                                                          [none of the
                                                          above] got
                                                          more votes
                                                          than the only
                                                          candidate,
                                                          then the seat
                                                          shall be
                                                          considered
                                                          vacant and the
                                                          Board will be
                                                          requested to
                                                          apply
                                                          provisions of
                                                          the Bylaws to
                                                          temporarily
                                                          fill the
                                                          vacant seat. </li>
                                                          </ul>
                                                          </ul>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Can
                                                          AfriNIC and
                                                          the nomcom
                                                          please
                                                          clarify?   We
                                                          should not
                                                          deprive Dr
                                                          Tessa of a
                                                          rightful win
                                                          …. especially
                                                          in the
                                                          circumstances
                                                          we find
                                                          ourselves.</div>
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