<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 30, 2018, at 11:13 , Mark Elkins <<a href="mailto:mje@posix.co.za" class="">mje@posix.co.za</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 30/05/2018 19:20, Arnaud AMELINA
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<div dir="ltr" class="">Owen, <br class="">
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<div class="gmail_quote">2018-05-29 22:34 GMT+00:00 Owen
DeLong <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">owen@delong.com</a>></span>:<br class="">
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<div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space" class="">Arnaud,
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<div class="">While I agree that additional clarity is needed and
I agree that there is some validity to the claim that
none of the above MAY not have been a legitimate
choice to place on the ballot, I think we cannot go
changing the rules of the election and violating the
expectations of the voters, membership, and community
after the election has run.</div>
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<div class="">Voters, membership and community are saying: <<a
mistake has been made; let's fix it!>><br class="">
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And members are saying "We are happy with the outcome" (I am,
anyway). The only folk that should be commenting on this are the
voting membership.<br class=""></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>To be clear, while I’m neither a voter nor a member, I am a member of the community. I’m saying:</div><div><br class=""></div><div>1.<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>A mistake was made in the writing of unclear election guidelines.</div><div>2.<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>No mistake was made in the conduct of the election.</div><div>3.<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Let’s fix it by amending the election guidelines to provide greater clarity</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>in the future.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>However, even if one accepts that a mistake was made in the conduct of the election, as you assert (I continue</div><div>to disagree, but let’s assume that is the case).</div><div><br class=""></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class=""><blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:CAGDMR_dnXSu3T-i4DX3T0+jbWm-n=yzrddXYuHPf+tTd70X6zg@mail.gmail.com" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space" class=""><div class="">Nobody raised an objection to the presence of none
of the above on the ballot for seat 2 prior to or
during the election.</div>
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<div class="">No one is raising objection even now on this option
being on the ballot as the guidelines are clear on that.
the issue at hand is the correct implementation of the
guidelines as written.<br class=""></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>So let me get this straight…</div><div><br class=""></div><div>You’re arguing that it was appropriate for voters to have the choice of “none of the above” even for seat 2, but, that</div><div>any voter which chose that option should then be disenfranchised by placing one of the other candidates in the board seat in spite of the fact that “none of the above” won the election for seat 2?</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Or are you arguing that neither of the candidates should be seated, but the board should not be allowed to fill the seat?</div><div><br class=""></div><div>What is this correct implementation you are arguing for? I am lost as to what, exactly you want at this point.</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class=""><blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:CAGDMR_dnXSu3T-i4DX3T0+jbWm-n=yzrddXYuHPf+tTd70X6zg@mail.gmail.com" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="">
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selected none of the above to change the result among
the remaining two candidates, it is not legitimate to
simply discard the none of the above votes and declare
one of those candidates a winner. Indeed, I would
argue that is the worst possible choice among all
other options.</div>
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<div class="">The other options as I see it are:</div>
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<div class=""><span class="gmail-m_-1039780601104480525Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>1.<span class="gmail-m_-1039780601104480525Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Allow
the board to treat the seat as vacant and appoint a
board member until the</div>
<div class=""><span class="gmail-m_-1039780601104480525Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>next
AGMM.</div>
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<div class=""><span class="gmail-m_-1039780601104480525Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>2.<span class="gmail-m_-1039780601104480525Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Treat
none of the above as a valid election result (in which
case it should be</div>
<div class=""><span class="gmail-m_-1039780601104480525Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>considered
the same for all 3 seats) and preclude the board from
appointing</div>
<div class=""><span class="gmail-m_-1039780601104480525Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>anyone
to the seat(s) until an election can be run.</div>
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<div class=""><span class="gmail-m_-1039780601104480525Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>3.<span class="gmail-m_-1039780601104480525Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Treat
none of the above as a valid election result only
for seat 2 and preclude</div>
<div class=""><span class="gmail-m_-1039780601104480525Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>the
board from appointing seat 2 while still allowing
them to appoint seats 5</div>
<div class=""><span class="gmail-m_-1039780601104480525Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>and
6.</div>
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<div class="">As I see it, the best option is option 1. It
allows the organization to proceed with a full board
until the next AGMM where a hopefully more effective
election can be accomplished.</div>
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<div class="">I think option 2 is bad because it leaves the
board precariously short-handed with only 5 of the
expected 8 members, including the CEO. (The 3
elected members which remain, whoever is appointed
to fill Haitham’s vacancy, and the CEO).</div>
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<div class="">The problem I have with option 3 is I have
trouble justifying treating the election of “none of
the above” differently in this circumstance than in
the case of a single unopposed candidate. In both
cases, more voters felt that they didn’t want any of
the options on the ballot and voted not to elect any
fo the candidates. The outcome is, IMHO, the same
regardless of the number of candidates and should be
handled identically.</div>
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<div class="">Why? There are places in the world where "none of the
above" is on ballot and has not effect on the results <br class="">
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What would the point of that be then - or are people confusing "None
of the above" with "Abstain” ?<br class=""></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>Usually one abstains (on a written ballot) by simply not chosing any of the candidates. In some cases, there is a candidate selection for “abstain”.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>I’ve never seen an election where “none of the above” was offered as a choice and treated as equivalent to abstaining.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>A vote for “none of the above” should be treated as an affirmative vote against all of the candidates on the slate. In the case where “none of the above” gets more votes than any other candidate, no candidate from the slate should be considered eligible for the position in question.</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class="">
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<div class="">and candidates with the highest votes wins. It is
matter of the elections rules. In the current
situation, the guidelines are clear and explicit on
how we should handle the results. So let follow it and
engage on discussions for amending the rules if we see
need to do so.</div>
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I was on the Board when this was introduced (6 or so years back?).
Its doing exactly what it was intended to - that if a person does
not like *anyone* on the list of choices - the member can instead
select "none of the above". Why does this seem so hard to grasp? I
also fail to understand why this is fine when there is only one
natural person on the list but not fine when there is more than one
natural person on the list.<br class=""></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>Agreed. The rules come close to saying this explicitly, but unfortunately, there is somewhat valid linguistic construction to claim that “none of the above” isn’t a candidate and therefore… blah blah… </div><div><br class=""></div><div>It’s specious. It’s clearly outside the intent and spirit of the rules. It’s much ado about nothing if you ask me.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>It clearly argues for clarifying the rules, but it really doesn’t strike me as a valid argument to alter the election result this late in the game.</div><div><br class=""></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class=""><blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:CAGDMR_dnXSu3T-i4DX3T0+jbWm-n=yzrddXYuHPf+tTd70X6zg@mail.gmail.com" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space" class=""><div class=""><div class="">Hopefully additional clarity can be achieved
prior to the next election and we won’t have to face
this issue again. Personally, I like the idea of
having “none of the above” as an option in all
cases.</div>
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<div class="">Clarity and fairness is the outcome of the complaint
regarding seat 2 here imho; for the rest we can agree to
disagree.<br class=""></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>The only way to achieve fairness at this point, IMHO, is to accept that neither candidate can be seated as they both lost vs. “none of the above”. The complaint here does not rise to the level of undoing the election which would clearly be unfair to the voters who voted “none of the above” (which is a larger number of voters than those voting for either candidate).</div><div><br class=""></div><div>If you want to argue that doing so is unfair to the candidate with the most votes, then fine, we’re being unfair to that number of voters. However, I think that’s a superior choice vs. being unfair to the majority of voters who selected either “none of the above” combined with the unknown number of voters who would have selected “none of the above” had the candidate with the least votes not been on the ballot.</div><div><br class=""></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class=""><blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:CAGDMR_dnXSu3T-i4DX3T0+jbWm-n=yzrddXYuHPf+tTd70X6zg@mail.gmail.com" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="">
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I agree to agree with Owen.<br class=""></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>Thanks, Mark.</div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""></div><div>Owen</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class="">
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<div class="">Thanks</div>
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<div class="">On May 29, 2018, at 14:56 , Arnaud
AMELINA <<a href="mailto:amelnaud@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">amelnaud@gmail.com</a>>
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<div dir="ltr" class="">Dear Ashok as a lawyer you
know that there is the law and spirit of
the law, please read bellow <br class="">
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<div class="gmail_quote">2018-05-25
11:18 GMT+00:00 Ashok <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:ashok@afrinic.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">ashok@afrinic.net</a>></span>:<br class="">
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class=""> Dear All,<br class="">
I apologize for having missed
your rejoinder to my mail.<br class="">
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<div class="">Despite the delays, we appreciate
your response as the matter is of
great concern.</div>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class=""> Your first
question regards the reason as to
why the same principle has been
applied to the election for Seat 2
<br class="">
notwithstanding the fact that
there were two candidates.<br class="">
My response is that an election
cannot be run on different
principles. In this particular
election the option "none of the
above " was <br class="">
introduced for the first time and
everyone was aware of this and it
applied to all the elections held
on that day. The Election
guidelines were amended to
acomodate this option.<br class="">
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<div class="">Yes indeed and the elections
guidelines explicitely addressed the
case of only a single candidate
running for election and the option
" none of the above" in this case
got more votes than the sole
candidate but is very silent in the
case of multiple candidates running
for elections with the option "none
of the above" getting more votes. <br class="">
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<div class="">Anytime elections involve the
option "none of the above", there
are always clear rules on how the
results are interpreted and the
actions that must be taken when
the option "none of the above" get
more votes than the multiple
candidates. </div>
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<div class="">It's not my intention to teach
you something here, but it does
look very bizarre that the legal
counsel never bothered to help the
board to make the guidelines
unambiguous and conform to
members expectations.</div>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class=""> Consequently
this option has to be taken in
consideration when finalising the
results.<br class="">
Where there were two candidates.
The options for voters were (1)
yes for candidate (1)-((2) yes for
candidate 2-(3) yes for non of the
above.Each one is mutually
exclusive.<br class="">
Each score to be counted
separately. The majority for
either option wins the day. </div>
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<div class="">Following your reasoning above
and the guidelines which say the
candidate with the highest votes
win, the members and community
should then accept "none of the
above" as the elected candidate
and seated although "none of the
above " did not go through Nomcom
and was not listed on the
candidates slates published by
Nomcom.</div>
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<div class="">Which means seat 2 should not
be declared vacant to be filled by
board.</div>
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<div class="">Filling seat 2 by board would
constitute the violation of "none
of the above" rights and of our
rules and thus expose us to legal
litigation.</div>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class="">One should
not create a fictitious majority
by adding votes polled by (1)
& (2) together. The real
majority was to all intents and
purposes the option which polled
the most votes. There is no need
to extrapolate or interpret. <br class="">
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<div class="">There is No fictitious majority
being created. It was just an
example of how this case could
have been interpreted just like
you do have your own
interpretation. </div>
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<div class="">In many cases, abstention is
compared to voters in order to
decide how to proceed with
validating an election and
counting results..</div>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class=""> Where there
was one candidate there were two
options- Yes for the single
candidate or yes for "non of the
above"<br class="">
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<div class="">The case of a sole candidate is
clear as per the guidelines and
there are no objections on seat 5
and 6 results.<br class="">
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class=""> My reference
to Art 10.2 was based on the
decision of the members present
at past AGMMs to have the option
of rejecting a single candidate or
to give their approval to the
single candidate, This has
occurred more than once.<br class="">
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<div class="">And once again, the case of a
single candidate is handled as
members agreed to and not debated<br class="">
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<div class="">Thank you</div>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class=""> Legal
Counsel AFRINIC.
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<div class="gmail-m_-1039780601104480525gmail-h5"><br class="">
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<div class="gmail-m_-1039780601104480525gmail-m_5703073448157574545moz-cite-prefix">On
24/05/2018 21:11, Arnaud
AMELINA wrote:<br class="">
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<div dir="auto" class="">Dear CEO
and Chairman</div>
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</div>
<div dir="auto" class="">It looks
like the Legal counsel
has not responded to
this query bellow
regarding this very
important issue about
the recently concluded
elections. </div>
<div dir="auto" class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div dir="auto" class="">Could
you kindly remind him?
</div>
<div dir="auto" class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div dir="auto" class="">Let us
address this to a good
conclusion in order to
enforce the respect of
our rules and
processes.</div>
<div dir="auto" class=""><br class="">
</div>
Regards </div>
<div dir="auto" class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div dir="auto" class="">Arnaud <br class="">
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<div dir="ltr" class="">Le sam.
19 mai 2018 11:40,
Omo Oaiya <<a href="mailto:Omo.Oaiya@wacren.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">Omo.Oaiya@wacren.net</a>>
a écrit :<br class="">
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<div class="">Dear
Legal Counsel,<br class="">
</div>
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</div>
<div class="">Thanks
for your
input. Much
appreciated. </div>
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</div>
<div class="">Your
statements
reinforce the
interpretation
of section 9.2
of the
guidelines
with the
origin of the
"none of the
above" option
in the
election
process and
how votes for
this option
are considered
in the case of
one candidate
running for
election for a
seat. [Last
bullet point] <br class="">
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</div>
<div class="">Case in
which the
election
becomes a
"yes" or "no"
vote for the
only
candidate.
This point is
clear and
accepted and
the objection
is not for the
results for
seat 5 and 6.</div>
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</div>
<div class="">What has
not been
clarified is
how the same
principle came
to be applied
for the
elections for
seat 2 which
had two
candidates
running for
the seat, one
of whom got
higher votes
than the
other, with
the total
number of
members
casting votes
in excess of
those opting
out.</div>
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</div>
<div class="">You
also referred
to art 10.2 of
the
constitution but
did not
elaborate on
the precedence
that occurred
that has
become an
integral part
of
our guidelines.
As precedence
automatically
becomes part
of the
election
guidelines, it
is important
that we
address issues
which come up
around the
election with
care and
unambiguously. </div>
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<div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class="">Can
you be so kind
to clarify? </div>
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<div class="">Best
wishes</div>
<div class="">Omo</div>
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</div>
<div class="">PS:
Grateful to
listers to
please
keep this
thread
confined to
the subject.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On
17 May 2018 at
17:17, Ashok <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:ashok@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">ashok@afrinic.net</a>></span>
wrote:<br class="">
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Dear Members
and Community,<br class="">
Mt views have
been sought on
the matter
under
reference.<br class="">
Please find
same
hereunder.<br class="">
<br class="">
<div class="gmail-m_-1039780601104480525gmail-m_5703073448157574545m_4753288495632542585m_-8469710531738800970gmail-m_6469985645637664215moz-cite-prefix">On
17/05/2018
14:04, B
<p class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><u class="">The
Election
Process and
last AGMM.</u></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal">The appointment of Directors is carried out
during an AGMM
of the Company
–Art 13.1 of
the
constitution.</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal">The election of the Directors is carried out
in terms of
Art 13.2 of
the
constitution
which refers
expressly to
the election
process
approved by
the Board.</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal">Moreover<span class=""> </span>Art 10.2 of the
Constitution
refers to
precedent
applied during
an AFRINIC
election and
which de facto
become part of
the election
guidelines. </p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal">The election process<span class=""> </span>as it
stands today
is the one
which was
applied during<span class="">
</span>the
elections held
during the
last AGMM
without any
opposition.</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal">This is what it provides:</p>
<span class="gmail-m_-1039780601104480525gmail-m_5703073448157574545m_4753288495632542585m_-8469710531738800970gmail-"><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal"><b class=""><span class="">9.2 Paper Ballot on Election Day</span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal"><span class="">The voting conducted during the Annual
General
Members'
Meeting is
carried out
via paper
ballots
containing a
list of
candidate
names and a
ballot number.
Prior to the
vote, all
members
present or
participants
holding a
proxy will be
requested to
register and
validate their
membership
status.</span></p>
</span>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal"><span class="">Voters should only vote for one
candidate per
category/region. Each mark on a ballot paper represents one vote. A
ballot with
more than one
mark per
category/region
will be
considered
spoilt, and
not be
counted.</span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal"><span class="">The ballot paper should provide voters
with the
option to not
vote for any
candidate
(a.k.a. "None
of the
Above").</span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal"><span class="">This will be a secret ballot election.
An inclusion
of any
personal data
on the ballot
paper will
invalidate the
vote and will
be counted as
spoilt.</span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal"><span class="">Elections will be closed as soon as the
last member or
proxy present
in the meeting
room casts
his/her vote.
Candidates
with the
highest number
of votes in
each category
will be
declared
winners.</span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal"><span class="">In the event of a tie for an open
position,
voting for
that position
will be
repeated (Only
by paper
ballot) the
same day until
there is a
winner.</span></li>
</span><span class="gmail-m_-1039780601104480525gmail-m_5703073448157574545m_4753288495632542585m_-8469710531738800970gmail-">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal"><span class="">All open positions shall be subject to
an election
process even
if there is
only one
candidate. In
that event, if
the option
[none of the
above] got
more votes
than the only
candidate,
then the seat
shall be
considered
vacant and the
Board will be
requested</span><span class="">
</span><span class="">to
apply
provisions of
the Bylaws to
temporarily
fill the
vacant seat</span></li>
</span>
</ul>
</ul>
</ul><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal">The last amendment of the election guidelines
introduced the
voting option
“ None of the
Above”. –(Vide
second bullet
point
above.)Those
voters who
have cast
their votes
for “ None of
the Above”
have done so
in compliance
with the
prevailing<span class="">
</span>constitution
<span class=""> </span>and
these are thus
valid votes.
Every voter
was aware of
the new
option.<span class=""></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal">The election guidelines are clear as to what
happens when
the “ None of
the Above”
option has a
majority.-
(Vide last
bullet point
above.)</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal">The election guidelines must be read as a
whole and all
the provisions
read together.</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal">Legal Counsel –AFRINIC</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal">17.05.2018</p>
oubakar Barry
wrote:<br class="">
</div>
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<span class=""></span><p style="margin-bottom:0.08in" class=""><font face="Arial,
sans-serif" class=""><font size="2" class="">Hello
Board and
Legal Counsel,</font></font></p><p style="margin-bottom:0.08in" class=""><font face="Arial,
sans-serif" class=""><font size="2" class=""><span lang="en-GB" class="">Good
that Omo
spotted this.
</span></font></font>
</p><p style="margin-bottom:0.08in" class=""><font face="Arial,
sans-serif" class=""><font size="2" class=""><span lang="en-GB" class="">It’s
a matter of
applying the
board election
process
adopted by the
board
according to
section 13.2
of the bylaws.
</span></font></font>
</p><p style="margin-bottom:0.08in" class=""><font face="Arial,
sans-serif" class=""><font size="2" class=""><span lang="en-GB" class=""><a href="https://afrinic.net/en/community/elections/bod-election/process" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">https://afrinic.net/en/communi<wbr class="">ty/elections/bod-election/<wbr class="">process</a>
describes the
process and
section 9
spells out how
to interpret
the results in
the case there
are more than
one candidate
and in the
case there is
only one
candidate.
These two
cases are
addressed
separately and
differently.</span></font></font></p><p style="margin-bottom:0.08in" class=""><font face="Arial,
sans-serif" class=""><font size="2" class=""><span lang="en-GB" class="">It’s
important to
hear from the
Board and the
Legal Counsel,
as the
elections can
be challenged.</span></font></font></p><p style="margin-bottom:0.08in" class=""><font face="Arial,
sans-serif" class=""><font size="2" class=""><span lang="en-GB" class="">Please
advise.</span></font></font></p><p style="margin-bottom:0.08in" class=""><font face="Arial,
sans-serif" class=""><font size="2" class=""><span lang="en-GB" class="">Regards.<br class="">
</span></font></font></p><p style="margin-bottom:0.08in" class=""><font face="Arial,
sans-serif" class=""><font size="2" class=""><span lang="en-GB" class="">Boubakar</span></font></font></p>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On
Wed, May 16,
2018 at 5:24
PM, Omo Oaiya
<span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:Omo.Oaiya@wacren.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">Omo.Oaiya@wacren.net</a>></span>
wrote:<br class="">
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<div class="">Greetings
All,</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">I am
looking at the
BoD election
process and it
seems to me
that the
recent e-mail
from the Board
Chair seeking
nominations
for vacant
seats should
not be
extended to
Western
Africa. </div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">The
particular
clause I am
referring to
is in 9.2 - <a href="https://afrinic.net/en/community/elections/bod-election/process" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">https://afrinic.net/en/commu<wbr class="">nity/elections/bod-election/<wbr class="">process</a></div>
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Elections will
be closed as
soon as the
last member or
proxy present
in the meeting
room casts
his/her vote.
Candidates
with the
highest number
of votes in
each category
will be
declared
winners</li>
</ul>
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</div>
<div class="">
<div class="">I see
from the list
for West
Africa that
the candidate
with the
highest number
of votes
should have
been declared
winner and
this is Dr
Ousmane Tessa.
(btw, Dr
Adewale
Adedokun needs
his name spelt
correctly)</div>
</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class=""><p style="margin-top:5px;margin-bottom:5px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Helvetica,Arial,FreeSans,sans-serif;font-variant-ligatures:normal;background-color:rgb(238,238,238)" class=""><br class="">
<b class="">Western
Africa - Seat
2</b></p><p style="margin-top:5px;margin-bottom:5px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Helvetica,Arial,FreeSans,sans-serif;font-variant-ligatures:normal;background-color:rgb(238,238,238)" class="">Dr
Adelawe
Abedekon - 43</p><p style="margin-top:5px;margin-bottom:5px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Helvetica,Arial,FreeSans,sans-serif;font-variant-ligatures:normal;background-color:rgb(238,238,238)" class="">Dr
Ousmane Moussa
Tessa - 56</p><p style="margin-top:5px;margin-bottom:5px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Helvetica,Arial,FreeSans,sans-serif;font-variant-ligatures:normal;background-color:rgb(238,238,238)" class="">None
of the above -
78</p><p style="margin-top:5px;margin-bottom:5px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Helvetica,Arial,FreeSans,sans-serif;font-variant-ligatures:normal;background-color:rgb(238,238,238)" class=""><i class="">Result:
The seat is
vacant</i></p>
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<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">The
results from
the other
regions are
valid and
supported by
the following
clause as they
had one
candidate. </div>
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<li class="">All open
positions
shall be
subject to an
election
process even
if there is
only one
candidate. In
that event, if
the option
[none of the
above] got
more votes
than the only
candidate,
then the seat
shall be
considered
vacant and the
Board will be
requested to
apply
provisions of
the Bylaws to
temporarily
fill the
vacant seat. </li>
</ul>
</ul>
</blockquote>
<br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Can
AfriNIC and
the nomcom
please
clarify? We
should not
deprive Dr
Tessa of a
rightful win
…. especially
in the
circumstances
we find
ourselves.</div>
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