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<p>The AfriNIC meeting is primarily for its membership though the
community is included - they (the community) are potential
(paying) membership. Its certainly paid for by its membership and
not the (non-membership part of) community.</p>
<p> You don't need to know how AfriNIC works in order to use the
Internet. <br>
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<p>So can we start seeing AfNOG removing all fees please at their
meetings? Everyone should be freely (as in - no cost) allowed to
attend the training sessions.</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 18/05/2018 11:54, Badru Ntege wrote:<br>
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<div>I see we are starting to divide the haves and have nots. The
internet is for everyone regardless of how deep your pockets
are. </div>
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<div>Let’s remember that the big privileged members sell services
to the community who are the real owners of AfriNIC. </div>
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<div>What I see now is these privileged owners wanting to claim
ownership and saying the poor should not be allowed in. </div>
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<div>Africa is not North America nor is it Europe or Asia. It’s
Africa with its unique challenges. Let’s stop these
comparisons. </div>
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<div>Regards. <br>
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On 18 May 2018, at 12:36, Mark Elkins <<a
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its pointless to have a nomcom in
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<div>It may not be pointless to have a nomcom but they
certainly can run better elections.
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NomCom this year had a bad deal. I'm not sure that had
NomCom been made up of any other people, whether it would
have made any difference.<br>
They were aboard the Titanic - they just didn't know it.<br>
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will be wasting members money to conduct
elections which involves facilitating
members of nomcom to fly to meetings to
conduct elections where no candidate is
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<div>Yes one of the ways that Afrinic wastes lots of
money flying people around. This contributes to why
our fees are so high compared to other RIRs we are in.
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Regarding Money and Meetings.<br>
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I would like to propose to the community and membership that
AfriNIC meetings are no longer free to attend - that we
introduce a badge fee of (say) US$100 in order to acquire
the badge. However, I believe Members (Registered,
Associative and Resource alike) should be provided with free
tickets (up to two for Resource organisations, otherwise one
voucher per Registered or Associated) at the time of filling
in their advanced registration. Sponsors should also get up
to two vouchers. Registered speakers (and staff) should also
get a voucher. If you Register at the event or don't have a
voucher - you pay the $100.
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At Dakar, I noticed a huge amount of well dressed local
people - that arrived in rooms just before lunch vouchers
were issues - and who disappeared after lunch. I don't see
why AfriNIC should have to feed the free-loaders. This would
have saved quite a bit.<br>
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This was discussed on the Board around 4 to 5 years ago but
we thought we could manage. I think it now needs to be
re-introduced.<br>
I know you have to pay to go to RIPE - and I presume other
RIR meetings?<br>
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Comments? (Preferably from people who were at the Dakar
meeting and who saw this happening)<br>
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On 18 May 2018, at 09:41, Noah <<a
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<div><span
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election was run and winner
declared. Majority of votes cast
to have none of the candidates
join the board. </span></div>
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<div>So its pointless to have a nomcom in
other-words and therefore AfriNIC will be
wasting members money to conduct elections
which involves facilitating members of
nomcom to fly to meetings to conduct
elections where no candidate is elected.</div>
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<div>Come on folks...</div>
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<div>Noah<br>
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Mark James ELKINS - Posix Systems - (South) Africa
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