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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Sami,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Are you now implying that I am some how less African than you? Despite being raised in Africa, lived in Africa all my life and under African skies will I die?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Your message implies that I am somehow not “A real African” – please can you clarify this?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Andrew<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Sami Salih [mailto:sami@tpra.gov.sd]
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<b>Sent:</b> 09 May 2018 14:56<br>
<b>To:</b> Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Alan Barrett <alan.barrett@afrinic.net>; Marcus K. G. Adomey <madomey@hotmail.com>; community-discuss <community-discuss@afrinic.net><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Community-Discuss] Bad news<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Take it easy Mr. Alston
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">In some African culture, satan is used as an adjective to describe some behavior, in is some cases it even has positive meaning, but you need to be real African to
got the meaning.<br>
please try to respect the diversity of the Africans, and don't always refer the the meanings used outside out continent.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">"Andrew Alston" <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>><br>
<b>To: </b>"Alan Barrett" <<a href="mailto:alan.barrett@afrinic.net">alan.barrett@afrinic.net</a>>, "Marcus K. G. Adomey" <<a href="mailto:madomey@hotmail.com">madomey@hotmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"community-discuss" <<a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a>><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, May 9, 2018 2:42:47 PM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Community-Discuss] Bad news<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I’m sorry Alan,</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">But I am nothing short of appalled that you can equate the sharing of what is VALID concern to this community and the RIR system – a situation that was created by AFRINIC – because no
one else created it – with openly calling a member SATAN is just – absolutely mind blowing.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Your message seems to imply that sharing legitimate concern and telling AFRINIC (referring to not just the corporate entity but the entire body, including this community) to get its act
into gear is provocation that some how justifies calling someone SATAN</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">This is shocking</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Andrew</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"> Alan Barrett [<a href="mailto:alan.barrett@afrinic.net">mailto:alan.barrett@afrinic.net</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> 09 May 2018 13:39<br>
<b>To:</b> Marcus K. G. Adomey <<a href="mailto:madomey@hotmail.com">madomey@hotmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Community-Discuss] Bad news</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Dear Marcus, Dear Sander,<br>
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In my opinion, the message from Marcus is a personal attack which is against the code of conduct. However, I understand that Marcus felt provoked by Sander’s message, which I think was unnecessary. (Both messages are copied below.)<br>
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I ask you both to be more careful of what you post.<br>
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Alan Barrett<br>
CEO, AFRINIC<br>
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<br>
> On 9 May 2018, at 09:15, Marcus K. G. Adomey <<a href="mailto:madomey@hotmail.com" target="_blank">madomey@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Sander,<br>
> <br>
> I am not surprise you are that you are sharing the "BAD NEWS" about the mess you and your friends from RIPE and ARIN are causing in AfriNIC in Community. This is a clear evidence that you are deploying your strategy to destroy AfriNIC. This is wicked and
would come from EVIL GUYS like you and your friends. Well, any search for SATAN should stop when you are met because there is no difference between you and SATAN. You shameless people, leave us (the sheep) alone for us to fix the mess you have created in this
community. Disgraced bad guys from RIPE and ARIN community.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Marcus<br>
> <br>
> From: Sander Steffann <<a href="mailto:sander@steffann.nl" target="_blank">sander@steffann.nl</a>><br>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 6:50:38 AM<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net" target="_blank">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a><br>
> Subject: [Community-Discuss] Bad news<br>
> <br>
> Hello community,<br>
> <br>
> I just noticed that the problems in Afrinic have reached the outside world beyond our community:
<a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/05/08/afrinic_sexual_harassment/" target="_blank">
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/05/08/afrinic_sexual_harassment/</a><br>
> <br>
> It makes me really sad. It also poses a great risk to the future of the bottom up self regulation system we (speaking of all the RIRs) have built. Afrinic must get its act together and show the world that it is a respectable, reliable and fair organisation
with broad support from its members.<br>
> <br>
> Cheers,<br>
> Sander<br>
> <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Dr. Sami Salih</span></strong><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> | Assistant Professor<br>
</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:teal">Sudan University of Science and Technology</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><br>
Eastern Dum, P.O Box 11111-407<br>
email: <a href="mailto:sami.salih@sustech.edu">sami.salih@sustech.edu</a><br>
Mob: +249122045707<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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