<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">First, that article is written very much from a US perspective and addresses concerns strictly from the US and in some cases UK perspective.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Second, this paragraph is key:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(81, 81, 81); color: rgb(81, 81, 81); font-family: myriad-pro, sans-serif; font-size: 19.600000381469727px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">Taking this into account, he advises: “Organisations outside of Europe must first decide if they currently are – or are planning to – conduct business in the region. Once they have answered this question, the next port of call is dissecting their intended business model to understand if they handle citizen data and if so, what that data is.”</span></div><div class=""><font color="#515151" face="myriad-pro, sans-serif" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(81, 81, 81); font-size: 19.600000381469727px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><br class=""></span></font></div><div class=""><div>It’s not clear that AfriNIC “conducts business in the region”.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Finally, it’s an EU law. AfriNIC is not an EU subject. If AfriNIC has nexus in the EU, then it could become subject to EU law. If Mauritius has signed a treaty with EU granting EU extraterritorial jurisdiction, it could become subject to EU law. Otherwise, no.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Owen</div><div><br class=""></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 11, 2018, at 03:33 , JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <<a href="mailto:jordi.palet@consulintel.es" class="">jordi.palet@consulintel.es</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">I think Andrew is right.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">I just found a short article that explains it:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""><a href="https://www.gdprandbeyond.com/blog-post/data-privacy/gdpr-affect-non-european-companies/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://www.gdprandbeyond.com/blog-post/data-privacy/gdpr-affect-non-european-companies/</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">If you don’t want to read all the article, this is the key:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">“The short answer is: the regulation will affect firms both inside and outside of the EU. In fact, any company dealing with EU businesses’, residents’, or citizens’ data will have to comply with the GDPR.”<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">Even more than that, it affects any company that may hold data from EU citizens, and that includes IP addresses.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">For example, if EU citizens are using a DNS resolver sitting in any AfriNIC country, then the logs with the IP addresses of the queries are subjected to the GDPR, if you make business out of those logs, and don’t anonymize them, you are subjected to fines of up to 4% of your annual turnover, up to a maximum of 20 million euros.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">In chats with EU lawyers, they basically told that there is a long road with this regulation in the courts, and ISPs need to be aware that this means that if their customers do “bad” things with EU citizens personal data, and they don’t react on those “abuse” cases, you may be at the end of the history, liable for that.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10.5pt;" class=""><br class=""></span><span lang="ES-TRAD" style="font-size: 10.5pt;" class="">Regards,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="ES-TRAD" style="font-size: 10.5pt;" class="">Jordi<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="ES-TRAD" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">De:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Andrew Alston <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Fecha:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>miércoles, 11 de abril de 2018, 12:15<br class=""><b class="">Para:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Owen DeLong <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">owen@delong.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">CC:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>General <<a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a>>, AFRINIC Board of Directors' List <<a href="mailto:Board@afrinic.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">Board@afrinic.net</a>><br class=""><b class="">Asunto:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a name="_MailOriginalBody" class=""><span class="">Owen,</span><o:p class=""></o:p></a></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><span class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><span class="">Firstly – AfriNIC does hold data on EU residents – that is without question – I know of a couple of cases of EU residents with their data held by AfriNIC without even thinking of it.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><span class="">Secondly – irrespective of if they are signatories or not – if AfriNIC chooses to do any business with RIPE for example, they are doing business with an EU entity and can be prevented from doing so if they don’t comply is my understanding.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><span class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><span class="">Irrespective of this – the AfriNIC board if they believe they do not need to comply in any way shape or form – needs to state that to this community and to its members and give reasons as to why not – at that point – the affected members can then make an informed decision as to their course of action should they choose one. But – AfriNIC still has an obligation to inform its community as to its standing in this regard and do so before the legislation becomes reality.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><span class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><span class="">Please note clause 3.4.vii of the bylaws:</span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><span class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); background-color: rgb(238, 238, 238); background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class="">(vii) to disseminate among its members information on all matters affecting the Company and its members and to provide for and be a central channel of communication for the members of the Company and generally for the furtherance and promotion of their interests;</span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); background-color: rgb(238, 238, 238); background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><span class="">Andrew</span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><span class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><b class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">From:</span></b></span><span class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Owen DeLong [<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mailto:owen@delong.com</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>11 April 2018 09:08<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Andrew Alston <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>General <<a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a>>; AFRINIC Board of Directors' List <<a href="mailto:Board@afrinic.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">Board@afrinic.net</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR<br class=""><b class="">Importance:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>High</span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class="" type="cite"><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">On Apr 10, 2018, at 22:42 , Andrew Alston <</span><a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span class="">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</span><span class=""></span></a><span class="">> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">Hi AfriNIC Board,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">Can this board please *<b class="">urgently</b>* inform this community as to what preparations they have made as regards to compliance with the General Data Protection Regulations passed by the European Commision and the board will be in a position to give this community a full and complete report as to their GDPR compliance status and what will be changing before the 25<sup class="">th</sup><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>of May to ensure that when the GDPR comes into force AfriNIC is compliant.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">Is Mauritius signatory to some treaty making them subject to GDPR?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""> <br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class="" type="cite"><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">Considering that the regulation comes into force on the 25<sup class="">th</sup><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>of May 2018 – and AfriNIC is 100% holding data of EU Citizens, which makes them subject to the regulations irrespective of the fact that they are domiciled in Mauritius – this is an urgent and critical issue. It has direct impact on the whois database, abuse contact information, handling of data submitted during application process and potentially even the proposed review policy, just to name a few things that I can think of off the top of my head – and cannot be ignored. I would in fact have liked to have seen discussions by the board in the minutes that have been published about the GDPR long before now – considering the impact – but failing that – the question is now being asked.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">It’s not about EU Citizens. It’s about EU Residents. (Common misconception about GDPR).<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">Further, unless your in a silly country that was dumb enough to sign a treaty extending EU’s legal reach into your sovereignty, such as the stupid congress of the united States, then you can offer the EU a nice big Italian sign language gesture regarding their GDPR and continue on with business as usual.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">Owen<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; 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