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<blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;">in the world of subjectivity the content can be read in any way its a case of the Glass half full or Half empty. However the fact the Chair shared this content with a junior member of staff
who reports to the CEO needs no investigation as there's no way the content would exist to be shared here. if i was to use your terminology at that part "we are actually separating electrons and producing plasmas".....</blockquote>
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<blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;">We all enjoy the world of "Paralysis through Analysis" There are some clearly glaring wrongs in this situation where if the individuals on the board really cared for the office they hold,
should step aside until they are exonerated. </blockquote>
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<blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;">The Gender issues from a staff member in the real world would mean that the staff member is also suspended immediately until the issue is investigated. </blockquote>
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<blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"> There is no room for that kind of language in AfrNIC period. </blockquote>
<blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">We need to show zero tolerance on some issues while being fare. </span></blockquote>
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<blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><font size="2">Taking the current situation is not being fare to both parties. We have an apparently aggrieved long serving member of staff and we have an </font>accused<font size="2"> long
serving senior member of staff. Until this is concluded both should be treated equally. </font></blockquote>
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<blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;">For Board with all due respect i want to see more leadership. We have nine board members and one of them should have taken the helm until the investigations are concluded. That's good governance.</blockquote>
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<div>This is not true in the real world and it is not true in this case.
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<div class="">You absolutely can have low-grade oxidation of hydrocarbons resulting in smoke without reaching the flashpoint temperature whereupon emitted gasses and nearby gasses are excited to such an extent as to start separating electrons and producing
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<div class="">Otherwise, you can make quite a bit of smoke without making fire.</div>
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<div class="">In this case, whether the actual allegations have merit or not remains completely unknown if we base it only on what has been posted publicly on this list. If there is other evidence elsewhere, I don’t have access.</div>
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<div class="">The postings appear to be an attempt by certain board members to assist the president in addressing an HR issue with the individual in question. There’s nothing in what was posted to support an accusation of bullying, harassment, or any form of
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<div class="">Frankly, I’m not even sure that the supposed evidence presented rises to the level of smoke, but I will let Badru defend his declaration there.</div>
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<div class="">Nonetheless, since there is an allegation, the allegation should be seriously investigated and dealt with appropriately.</div>
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<div class="">I have my own opinion of the voracity of the allegation in question, but I will keep that to myself until we see the results of the investigation.</div>
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<div class="">I agree it’s not a small matter. However, what the CEO did is correct. He issued a statement. The Board is at the moment conflicted so may not be fair to expect them to respond immediately. Not sure if the Board has a Governance Committee within
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<div class="">This is not a minor issue and thus the reason we are all waiting for our elected Board. </div>
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<div class="">Please note elected board, CEO needs to be protected at this moment. </div>
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<div class="">If chair cannot comment then one o our other elected board should. That’s what accountability is about. </div>
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<div class="">Our organization must be protected above any individuals. </div>
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<div class="">Allan is correct in responding. The CEO takes the lead on such issues. The Board can also respond. However I’d like to caution all of us not cast aspersions right now. This is a serious matter that impugns on the organization. The Board is a representation
of the community in the organization. They have a fiduciary responsibility to uphold the organization’s mandate and good name. </div>
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<div class="">At this point there is a huge risk that needs to really be managed well.</div>
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<div class="">There is loss of trust in the board. This is the point where a critical review of AFRINIC mandate must be done.
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