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<div>Bonsoir</div>
<div>Il est vrai que le facteur langue constitue encore</div>
<div>Une barrière à l'implication de bon nombre. </div>
<div>Toutes fois les promesses ou</div>
<div>Engagement pris doivent être respectés. </div>
<div>C'est pas toujours facile de se dire que comme je suis pas assez bon en anglais</div>
<div>La ce que les autres vont comprendre de mon propos serait réellement ce que je veux dire. </div>
<div>Il serait judicieux de traduire ne ce reste qu' en les langues officielles de l' union africaine. </div>
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-------- Message d'origine --------<br>
De : Kangamutima zabika Christophe <funga.roho@yandex.com> <br>
Date : 18/01/2018 15:28 (GMT+01:00) <br>
A : community-discuss@afrinic.net <br>
Objet : Re: [Community-Discuss] Community-Discuss Digest, Vol 257, Issue 1 <br>
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Bien qu'Owen n'a pas mentionné a source de ces statistiques, je pense aussi la priorité serait accordé hormis à l'anglais, le français, l'arabe et le swahili (qui est la aussi la 4ème langue de l'union africaine). Tout est question de volonté. Je pense que
pour le français, si Afrinic approchait une organisation partenaire d'Afrinic comme l'OIF (Organisation Internationale de la Francopohonie), de voies et moyens pourraient être trouvé pour résoudre cette problématique. Malheureusement à Afrinic27 j'ai rencontré
beaucoup des locuteurs arabophones qui ne s'exprimaient qu'en anglais et quelques rares fois en français. Je pense que ceux ci devraient revendiquer vigoureusement leurs droits du fait qu'ils forment une large majorité de la communauté d'internautes africains.<br>
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17.01.2018, 13:01, "community-discuss-request@afrinic.net" <community-discuss-request@afrinic.net>:<br>
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> Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 16:24:07 +0200 (CAT)<br>
> From: mohammed@ntc.gov.sd<br>
> To: Nishal Goburdhan <nishal@controlfreak.co.za><br>
> Cc: community-discuss@afrinic.net<br>
> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Community-Discuss Digest, Vol 252,<br>
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> I believe If we want to rebalance the language gap we have to target large communities and reach the largest segment of them. Arabic-speaking African countries are more than ten countries. So, it's of high importance that the site should be translated into
Arabic to ensure greater access to the community. It's worth mentioning that the main reason why Arab don't participate in AfriNIC or any other ICT-related event is the language.<br>
> As to who is going to do the translation, we can ask help from Arab volunteers. I, myself, would be very happy to participate in the translation process.<br>
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> Mohammed Yousif<br>
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> ??? ????? ????? ??????? ?? ?????? ??????? ????? ???????? ????????? ??????? ??????? ??? ???? ????? ????. ??????? ????????? ??????? ?????? ??????? ?? ???? ?? ???? ???? ??? ?????? ?? ??? ????? ?????? ??? ????? ??????? ????? ???? ???? ??? ???????. ?? ?????? ??????
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> ???? ??????? ??????? ?????? ???? ?? ?????? ???? ??????? ????? ????????? ???????? ??? ?????? ???? ? ?????? ?? ???? ??? ?? ???? ???????.<br>
> ???? ????<br>
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> The Arabic-speaking African countries, that are more than ten<br>
> ----- Original Message -----<br>
> From: "Nishal Goburdhan" <nishal@controlfreak.co.za><br>
> To: community-discuss@afrinic.net<br>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 7:57:20 PM<br>
> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Community-Discuss Digest, Vol 252, Issue 1<br>
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> On 10 Jan 2018, at 17:28, Kangamutima zabika Christophe wrote:<br>
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>> Monsieur Barrett,<br>
>><br>
>> Pouvez vous nous ?clairer sur l'?tat d'avancement du processus de<br>
>> traduction des pages web du site internet d'Afrinic en fran?ais? Un<br>
>> mois apr?s AFRINIC27 o? vous et votre administration avez promis ?<br>
>> la communaut? francophone de mettre les bouch?es double afin de<br>
>> r??quilibrer la fracture linguistique subie par la communaut?<br>
>> d'internautes africains francophones.<br>
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> ???? ?? ????? ??????? ?<br>
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> Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 07:58:59 -0800<br>
> From: sm+afrinic@elandsys.com<br>
> To: Mohammed Yousif <mohammed@ntc.gov.sd>,<br>
> community-discuss@afrinic.net<br>
> Subject: [Community-Discuss] Target large communities (was:<br>
> Community-Discuss Digest, Vol 252, Issue 1)<br>
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> Hi Mohammed,<br>
> At 06:24 AM 16-01-2018, mohammed@ntc.gov.sd wrote:<br>
>> I believe If we want to rebalance the language gap we have to target<br>
>> large communities and reach the largest segment of them.<br>
>> Arabic-speaking African countries are more than ten countries. So,<br>
>> it's of high importance that the site should be translated into<br>
>> Arabic to ensure greater access to the community. It's worth<br>
>> mentioning that the main reason why Arab don't participate in<br>
>> AfriNIC or any other ICT-related event is the language.<br>
>> As to who is going to do the translation, we can ask help from Arab<br>
>> volunteers. I, myself, would be very happy to participate in the<br>
>> translation process.<br>
><br>
> Thank you for providing the above input. I wondered why the<br>
> participation from Arabic-speaking African countries was relatively low.<br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
> S. Moonesamy<br>
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> Message: 3<br>
> Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 13:45:30 -0800<br>
> From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com><br>
> To: sm+afrinic@elandsys.com<br>
> Cc: community-discuss@afrinic.net<br>
> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Target large communities (was:<br>
> Community-Discuss Digest, Vol 252, Issue 1)<br>
> Message-ID: <CDFD0EC2-C527-4BAB-9429-3DF463270E05@delong.com><br>
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> If we?re looking for liguistic priority, perhaps we should focus on demographics by popluation?<br>
><br>
> This is my best attempt to incorporate both native and non-native speaker statistics. Reliable sources for the information are difficult to find and it took multiple sources using inconsistent data formats to attempt to compile the list.<br>
><br>
> Sources included a variety of wikipedia pages and other google searched locations.<br>
><br>
> I?m the first to admit this is not a scientific survey and may have issues with accuracy.<br>
><br>
> In order, the top 10 are:<br>
><br>
> English (196M)<br>
> Arabic (140MM)<br>
> French (120MM)<br>
> Swahili or Kiswahili (100MM)<br>
> Hausa (70MM)<br>
> Berber (56MM)<br>
> Yoruba (28MM)<br>
> Oromo (26MM)<br>
> Amharic (22MM)<br>
> Igbo (18MM)<br>
><br>
> Total: 776MM<br>
><br>
> So the top 10 languages would cover roughly 15/16ths of the population.<br>
> If we move cover the top 5, we get 626MM or roughly 3/4 of the population.<br>
> The top 3 (English, Arabic, French) will cover 456MM or roughly 1/2 of the population.<br>
><br>
> I do find it interesting that the first African language comes in at number 4.<br>
><br>
> Owen<br>
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>> On Jan 16, 2018, at 07:58 , sm+afrinic@elandsys.com wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Hi Mohammed,<br>
>> At 06:24 AM 16-01-2018, mohammed@ntc.gov.sd wrote:<br>
>>> I believe If we want to rebalance the language gap we have to target large communities and reach the largest segment of them. Arabic-speaking African countries are more than ten countries. So, it's of high importance that the site should be translated
into Arabic to ensure greater access to the community. It's worth mentioning that the main reason why Arab don't participate in AfriNIC or any other ICT-related event is the language.<br>
>>> As to who is going to do the translation, we can ask help from Arab volunteers. I, myself, would be very happy to participate in the translation process.<br>
>><br>
>> Thank you for providing the above input. I wondered why the participation from Arabic-speaking African countries was relatively low.<br>
>><br>
>> Regards,<br>
>> S. Moonesamy<br>
>><br>
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