<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Well…<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The <a href="http://africa-facts.org" class="">africa-facts.org</a> site doesn’t appear to provide numbers of people speaking the language to back up their</div><div class="">count and while they don’t assign a number to English, they do mention it at the top of the page with nearly 11 million native speakers. The fact that they focus on native speakers only leads me to believe that their statistics are also likely based on native speakers only and not total speakers continent-wide.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I tried to compile (what I consider more relevant) statistics of all speakers and not just native speakers.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The FOCAC site appears not to consider French or English at all and it’s not entirely clear why they consider Arabic in the absence of those two.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Fluentu appears to be a trimmed down version of the same content from africa-facts, including word for word duplication of the introductory text and other parts.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The geneeugene blog appears to focus on statistics for native speakers and appears to count the entire population of countries where the language is spoken vs. drilling down into actual speaker counts within the country.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The africaranking page does appear to be a better attempt than virtually any other site I found at doing the same sort of aggregation I was attempting. However, they don’t cite sources or really talk about their methodology, either, so I’d say that the margin of error in their data is probably similar to mine. I will note that with the exception of them placing Swahili at number 3 and French at number 4, we came to nearly identical conclusions in terms of order, though their report of more than 700 million English speakers (which I question) vs. my count of 196 million is a striking difference.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If we assume that they are correct that 700 million (of a total population of 900 million) people in Africa speak English, then it seems to me that the cost:benefit ratio of translation is rather questionable given the split of the remaining 23% across at least 4 languages.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">However, I agree with whoever said we shouldn’t waste a lot of time on this. I think it is obviously logical to translate the site and principal documents into English (authoritative source), Arabic (First priority translation) and French (Second priority). These 3 cover the vast majority of community members, probably north of 90% if we are to believe the numbers on africaranking and certainly north of 50% based on my more pessimistic numbers.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Owen</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jan 18, 2018, at 7:13 AM, <a href="mailto:mohammed@ntc.gov.sd" class="">mohammed@ntc.gov.sd</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 14pt;" class=""><div class="">At first, sorry for sending this as an HTML-formatted message.</div><div class="">The table below represents a number of information sources that seem to be reliable. The source of the information is on the first column, and the table contains the number of the most widely spoken languages in Africa. "N/A" means the language didn't show up on the list, numbers are the order in which the language appears.</div><div class="">It's noticed that "English" didn't appear in most of the lists provided by these sources, whereas, all sites seem to agree that "Arabic" and "Swahili" are the most widely spoken languages in Africa.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><table border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" data-mce-style="width: 0px; margin-left: -0.5pt; border-collapse: collapse;" style="width: 0px; margin-left: -0.5pt; border-collapse: collapse;" class=""><tbody class=""><tr data-mce-style="height: 15.75pt;" style="height: 15.75pt;" class=""><td width="345" data-mce-style="width: 226.0pt; border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; height: 15.75pt;" style="width: 226pt; border: 1pt solid windowtext; padding: 0in 5.4pt; height: 15.75pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal;" class=""><b class="">Source / Language</b></div></td><td width="58" data-mce-style="width: 48.0pt; border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-left: none; padding: 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; height: 15.75pt;" style="width: 48pt; border-style: solid solid solid none; border-top-color: windowtext; border-right-color: windowtext; border-bottom-color: windowtext; border-top-width: 1pt; border-right-width: 1pt; border-bottom-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; height: 15.75pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal;" class=""><b class="">English</b></div></td><td width="53" data-mce-style="width: 48.0pt; border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-left: none; padding: 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; height: 15.75pt;" style="width: 48pt; border-style: solid solid solid none; border-top-color: windowtext; border-right-color: windowtext; border-bottom-color: windowtext; border-top-width: 1pt; border-right-width: 1pt; border-bottom-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; height: 15.75pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal;" class=""><b class="">Arabic</b></div></td><td width="56" data-mce-style="width: 48.0pt; border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-left: none; padding: 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; height: 15.75pt;" style="width: 48pt; border-style: solid solid solid none; border-top-color: windowtext; border-right-color: windowtext; border-bottom-color: windowtext; border-top-width: 1pt; border-right-width: 1pt; border-bottom-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; height: 15.75pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal;" class=""><b class="">French</b></div></td><td width="59" data-mce-style="width: 48.0pt; border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-left: none; padding: 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; height: 15.75pt;" style="width: 48pt; border-style: solid solid solid none; border-top-color: windowtext; border-right-color: windowtext; border-bottom-color: windowtext; border-top-width: 1pt; border-right-width: 1pt; border-bottom-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; height: 15.75pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal;" class=""><b class="">Swahili</b></div></td><td width="52" data-mce-style="width: 48.0pt; border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-left: none; padding: 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; height: 15.75pt;" style="width: 48pt; border-style: solid solid solid none; border-top-color: windowtext; border-right-color: windowtext; border-bottom-color: windowtext; border-top-width: 1pt; border-right-width: 1pt; border-bottom-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; height: 15.75pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal;" class=""><b class="">Hausa</b></div></td><td width="65" data-mce-style="width: 48.0pt; border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-left: none; padding: 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; height: 15.75pt;" style="width: 48pt; border-style: solid solid solid none; border-top-color: windowtext; border-right-color: windowtext; border-bottom-color: windowtext; border-top-width: 1pt; border-right-width: 1pt; border-bottom-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; height: 15.75pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal;" class=""><b class="">Amharic</b></div></td></tr><tr data-mce-style="height: 30.75pt;" style="height: 30.75pt;" class=""><td width="345" data-mce-style="width: 226.0pt; border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-top: none; padding: 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" style="width: 226pt; border-style: none solid solid; border-right-color: windowtext; border-bottom-color: windowtext; border-left-color: windowtext; border-right-width: 1pt; border-bottom-width: 1pt; border-left-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal;" class=""><span data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;" style="text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span data-mce-style="color: #0563c1;" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193);" class=""><a href="https://africa-facts.org/top-10-most-spoken-languages-in-africa/" data-mce-href="https://africa-facts.org/top-10-most-spoken-languages-in-africa/" class=""><span data-mce-style="color: #0563c1;" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193);" class="">https://africa-facts.org/top-10-most-spoken-languages-in-africa/<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></a></span></span></div></td><td width="58" data-mce-style="width: 48.0pt; border-top: none; border-left: none; border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" style="width: 48pt; border-style: none solid solid none; border-bottom-color: windowtext; border-bottom-width: 1pt; border-right-color: windowtext; border-right-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0px; text-align: center; line-height: normal;" class="">N/A</div></td><td width="53" data-mce-style="width: 48.0pt; border-top: none; border-left: none; border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" style="width: 48pt; border-style: none solid solid none; border-bottom-color: windowtext; border-bottom-width: 1pt; border-right-color: windowtext; border-right-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0px; text-align: center; line-height: normal;" class="">9</div></td><td width="56" data-mce-style="width: 48.0pt; border-top: none; border-left: none; border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" style="width: 48pt; border-style: none solid solid none; border-bottom-color: windowtext; border-bottom-width: 1pt; border-right-color: windowtext; border-right-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0px; text-align: center; line-height: normal;" class="">10</div></td><td width="59" data-mce-style="width: 48.0pt; border-top: none; border-left: none; border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" style="width: 48pt; border-style: none solid solid none; border-bottom-color: windowtext; border-bottom-width: 1pt; border-right-color: windowtext; border-right-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0px; text-align: center; line-height: normal;" class="">1</div></td><td width="52" data-mce-style="width: 48.0pt; border-top: none; border-left: none; border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" style="width: 48pt; border-style: none solid solid none; border-bottom-color: windowtext; border-bottom-width: 1pt; border-right-color: windowtext; border-right-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0px; text-align: center; line-height: normal;" class="">5</div></td><td width="65" data-mce-style="width: 48.0pt; border-top: none; border-left: none; border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" style="width: 48pt; border-style: none solid solid none; border-bottom-color: windowtext; border-bottom-width: 1pt; border-right-color: windowtext; border-right-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0px; text-align: center; line-height: normal;" class="">2</div></td></tr><tr data-mce-style="height: 30.75pt;" style="height: 30.75pt;" class=""><td width="345" valign="bottom" data-mce-style="width: 226.0pt; border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-top: none; padding: 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" style="width: 226pt; border-style: none solid solid; border-right-color: windowtext; border-bottom-color: windowtext; border-left-color: windowtext; border-right-width: 1pt; border-bottom-width: 1pt; border-left-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal;" class=""><span data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;" style="text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span data-mce-style="color: #0563c1;" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193);" class=""><a href="http://www.focac.org/eng/zjfz/fzzl/t619829.htm" data-mce-href="http://www.focac.org/eng/zjfz/fzzl/t619829.htm" class=""><span data-mce-style="color: #0563c1;" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193);" class="">http://wwwT.focac.org/eng/zjfz/fzzl/t619829.htm<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></a></span></span></div></td><td width="58" data-mce-style="width: 48.0pt; border-top: none; border-left: none; border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" style="width: 48pt; border-style: none solid solid none; border-bottom-color: windowtext; border-bottom-width: 1pt; border-right-color: windowtext; border-right-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0px; text-align: center; line-height: normal;" class="">N/A</div></td><td width="53" data-mce-style="width: 48.0pt; border-top: none; border-left: none; border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" style="width: 48pt; border-style: none solid solid none; border-bottom-color: windowtext; border-bottom-width: 1pt; border-right-color: windowtext; border-right-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0px; text-align: center; line-height: normal;" class="">1</div></td><td width="56" data-mce-style="width: 48.0pt; border-top: none; border-left: none; border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" style="width: 48pt; border-style: none solid solid none; border-bottom-color: windowtext; border-bottom-width: 1pt; border-right-color: windowtext; border-right-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0px; text-align: center; line-height: normal;" class="">N/A</div></td><td width="59" data-mce-style="width: 48.0pt; border-top: none; border-left: none; border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" style="width: 48pt; border-style: none solid solid none; border-bottom-color: windowtext; border-bottom-width: 1pt; border-right-color: windowtext; border-right-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0px; text-align: center; line-height: normal;" class="">2</div></td><td width="52" data-mce-style="width: 48.0pt; border-top: none; border-left: none; border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" style="width: 48pt; border-style: none solid solid none; border-bottom-color: windowtext; border-bottom-width: 1pt; border-right-color: windowtext; border-right-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0px; text-align: center; line-height: normal;" class="">N/A</div></td><td width="65" data-mce-style="width: 48.0pt; border-top: none; border-left: none; border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" style="width: 48pt; border-style: none solid solid none; border-bottom-color: windowtext; border-bottom-width: 1pt; border-right-color: windowtext; border-right-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0px; text-align: center; line-height: normal;" class="">4</div></td></tr><tr data-mce-style="height: 30.75pt;" style="height: 30.75pt;" class=""><td width="345" valign="bottom" data-mce-style="width: 226.0pt; border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-top: none; padding: 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" style="width: 226pt; border-style: none solid solid; border-right-color: windowtext; border-bottom-color: windowtext; border-left-color: windowtext; border-right-width: 1pt; border-bottom-width: 1pt; border-left-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal;" class=""><span data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;" style="text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span data-mce-style="color: #0563c1;" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193);" class=""><a href="https://www.fluentu.com/blog/languages-spoken-in-africa/" data-mce-href="https://www.fluentu.com/blog/languages-spoken-in-africa/" class=""><span data-mce-style="color: #0563c1;" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193);" class="">https://www.fluentu.com/blog/languages-spoken-in-africa/<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></a></span></span></div></td><td width="58" data-mce-style="width: 48.0pt; border-top: none; border-left: none; border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" style="width: 48pt; border-style: none solid solid none; border-bottom-color: windowtext; border-bottom-width: 1pt; border-right-color: windowtext; border-right-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0px; text-align: center; line-height: normal;" class="">N/A</div></td><td width="53" data-mce-style="width: 48.0pt; border-top: none; border-left: none; border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" style="width: 48pt; border-style: none solid solid none; border-bottom-color: windowtext; border-bottom-width: 1pt; border-right-color: windowtext; border-right-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0px; text-align: center; line-height: normal;" class="">1</div></td><td width="56" data-mce-style="width: 48.0pt; border-top: none; border-left: none; border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" style="width: 48pt; border-style: none solid solid none; border-bottom-color: windowtext; border-bottom-width: 1pt; border-right-color: windowtext; border-right-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0px; text-align: center; line-height: normal;" class="">5</div></td><td width="59" data-mce-style="width: 48.0pt; border-top: none; border-left: none; border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" style="width: 48pt; border-style: none solid solid none; border-bottom-color: windowtext; border-bottom-width: 1pt; border-right-color: windowtext; border-right-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0px; text-align: center; line-height: normal;" class="">2</div></td><td width="52" data-mce-style="width: 48.0pt; border-top: none; border-left: none; border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" style="width: 48pt; border-style: none solid solid none; border-bottom-color: windowtext; border-bottom-width: 1pt; border-right-color: windowtext; border-right-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0px; text-align: center; line-height: normal;" class="">3</div></td><td width="65" data-mce-style="width: 48.0pt; border-top: none; border-left: none; border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" style="width: 48pt; border-style: none solid solid none; border-bottom-color: windowtext; border-bottom-width: 1pt; border-right-color: windowtext; border-right-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0px; text-align: center; line-height: normal;" class="">4</div></td></tr><tr data-mce-style="height: 45.75pt;" style="height: 45.75pt;" class=""><td width="345" valign="bottom" data-mce-style="width: 226.0pt; border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-top: none; padding: 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; height: 45.75pt;" style="width: 226pt; border-style: none solid solid; border-right-color: windowtext; border-bottom-color: windowtext; border-left-color: windowtext; border-right-width: 1pt; border-bottom-width: 1pt; border-left-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; height: 45.75pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal;" class=""><span data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;" style="text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span data-mce-style="color: #0563c1;" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193);" class=""><a href="https://geneeugene.wordpress.com/2016/09/26/top-10-most-widely-spoken-languages-in-african/" data-mce-href="https://geneeugene.wordpress.com/2016/09/26/top-10-most-widely-spoken-languages-in-african/" class=""><span data-mce-style="color: #0563c1;" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193);" class="">https://geneeugene.wordpress.com/2016/09/26/top-10-most-widely-spoken-languages-in-african/<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></a></span></span></div></td><td width="58" data-mce-style="width: 48.0pt; border-top: none; border-left: none; border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; height: 45.75pt;" style="width: 48pt; border-style: none solid solid none; border-bottom-color: windowtext; border-bottom-width: 1pt; border-right-color: windowtext; border-right-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; height: 45.75pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0px; text-align: center; line-height: normal;" class="">4</div></td><td width="53" data-mce-style="width: 48.0pt; border-top: none; border-left: none; border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; height: 45.75pt;" style="width: 48pt; border-style: none solid solid none; border-bottom-color: windowtext; border-bottom-width: 1pt; border-right-color: windowtext; border-right-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; height: 45.75pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0px; text-align: center; line-height: normal;" class="">1</div></td><td width="56" data-mce-style="width: 48.0pt; border-top: none; border-left: none; border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; height: 45.75pt;" style="width: 48pt; border-style: none solid solid none; border-bottom-color: windowtext; border-bottom-width: 1pt; border-right-color: windowtext; border-right-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; height: 45.75pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0px; text-align: center; line-height: normal;" class="">N/A</div></td><td width="59" data-mce-style="width: 48.0pt; border-top: none; border-left: none; border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; height: 45.75pt;" style="width: 48pt; border-style: none solid solid none; border-bottom-color: windowtext; border-bottom-width: 1pt; border-right-color: windowtext; border-right-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; height: 45.75pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0px; text-align: center; line-height: normal;" class="">2</div></td><td width="52" data-mce-style="width: 48.0pt; 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border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-top: none; padding: 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" style="width: 226pt; border-style: none solid solid; border-right-color: windowtext; border-bottom-color: windowtext; border-left-color: windowtext; border-right-width: 1pt; border-bottom-width: 1pt; border-left-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal;" class=""><span data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;" style="text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span data-mce-style="color: #0563c1;" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193);" class=""><a href="http://www.africaranking.com/most-spoken-languages-in-africa/5/" data-mce-href="http://www.africaranking.com/most-spoken-languages-in-africa/5/" class=""><span data-mce-style="color: #0563c1;" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193);" class="">http://www.africaranking.com/most-spoken-languages-in-africa/5/<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></a></span></span></div></td><td width="58" data-mce-style="width: 48.0pt; border-top: none; border-left: none; border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" style="width: 48pt; border-style: none solid solid none; border-bottom-color: windowtext; border-bottom-width: 1pt; border-right-color: windowtext; border-right-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0px; text-align: center; line-height: normal;" class="">1</div></td><td width="53" data-mce-style="width: 48.0pt; border-top: none; border-left: none; border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" style="width: 48pt; border-style: none solid solid none; border-bottom-color: windowtext; border-bottom-width: 1pt; border-right-color: windowtext; border-right-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0px; text-align: center; line-height: normal;" class="">2</div></td><td width="56" data-mce-style="width: 48.0pt; border-top: none; border-left: none; border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" style="width: 48pt; border-style: none solid solid none; border-bottom-color: windowtext; border-bottom-width: 1pt; border-right-color: windowtext; border-right-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0px; text-align: center; line-height: normal;" class="">4</div></td><td width="59" data-mce-style="width: 48.0pt; border-top: none; border-left: none; border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" style="width: 48pt; border-style: none solid solid none; border-bottom-color: windowtext; border-bottom-width: 1pt; border-right-color: windowtext; border-right-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0px; text-align: center; line-height: normal;" class="">3</div></td><td width="52" data-mce-style="width: 48.0pt; border-top: none; border-left: none; border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" style="width: 48pt; border-style: none solid solid none; border-bottom-color: windowtext; border-bottom-width: 1pt; border-right-color: windowtext; border-right-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0px; text-align: center; line-height: normal;" class="">5</div></td><td width="65" data-mce-style="width: 48.0pt; border-top: none; border-left: none; border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" style="width: 48pt; border-style: none solid solid none; border-bottom-color: windowtext; border-bottom-width: 1pt; border-right-color: windowtext; border-right-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; height: 30.75pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0px; text-align: center; line-height: normal;" class="">N/A</div></td></tr></tbody></table><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best</div><div class="">Mohammed Yousif</div></div><hr id="zwchr" class=""><div style="font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=""><b class="">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>"Kangamutima zabika Christophe" <<a href="mailto:funga.roho@yandex.com" class="">funga.roho@yandex.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b><a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net" class="">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a><br class=""><b class="">Sent:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Thursday, January 18, 2018 5:27:14 PM<br class=""><b class="">Subject:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [Community-Discuss] Community-Discuss Digest, Vol 257, Issue 1<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div>Bien qu'Owen n'a pas mentionné a source de ces statistiques, je pense aussi la priorité serait accordé hormis à l'anglais, le français, l'arabe et le swahili (qui est la aussi la 4ème langue de l'union africaine). Tout est question de volonté. Je pense que pour le français, si Afrinic approchait une organisation partenaire d'Afrinic comme l'OIF (Organisation Internationale de la Francopohonie), de voies et moyens pourraient être trouvé pour résoudre cette problématique. Malheureusement à Afrinic27 j'ai rencontré beaucoup des locuteurs arabophones qui ne s'exprimaient qu'en anglais et quelques rares fois en français. Je pense que ceux ci devraient revendiquer vigoureusement leurs droits du fait qu'ils forment une large majorité de la communauté d'internautes africains.<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div>17.01.2018, 13:01, "<a href="mailto:community-discuss-request@afrinic.net" class="">community-discuss-request@afrinic.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:community-discuss-request@afrinic.net" class="">community-discuss-request@afrinic.net</a>>:<br class="">> Send Community-Discuss mailing list submissions to<br class="">> <a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net" class="">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a><br class="">><br class="">> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br class="">> <a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss" class="">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss</a><br class="">> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br class="">> <a href="mailto:community-discuss-request@afrinic.net" class="">community-discuss-request@afrinic.net</a><br class="">><br class="">> You can reach the person managing the list at<br class="">> <a href="mailto:community-discuss-owner@afrinic.net" class="">community-discuss-owner@afrinic.net</a><br class="">><br class="">> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br class="">> than "Re: Contents of Community-Discuss digest..."<br class="">><br class="">> Today's Topics:<br class="">><br class="">> 1. Re: Community-Discuss Digest, Vol 252, Issue 1<br class="">> (<a href="mailto:mohammed@ntc.gov.sd" class="">mohammed@ntc.gov.sd</a>)<br class="">> 2. Target large communities (was: Community-Discuss Digest, Vol<br class="">> 252, Issue 1) (<a href="mailto:sm+afrinic@elandsys.com" class="">sm+afrinic@elandsys.com</a>)<br class="">> 3. Re: Target large communities (was: Community-Discuss Digest,<br class="">> Vol 252, Issue 1) (Owen DeLong)<br class="">><br class="">> ----------------------------------------------------------------------<br class="">><br class="">> Message: 1<br class="">> Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 16:24:07 +0200 (CAT)<br class="">> From: <a href="mailto:mohammed@ntc.gov.sd" class="">mohammed@ntc.gov.sd</a><br class="">> To: Nishal Goburdhan <<a href="mailto:nishal@controlfreak.co.za" class="">nishal@controlfreak.co.za</a>><br class="">> Cc: <a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net" class="">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a><br class="">> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Community-Discuss Digest, Vol 252,<br class="">> Issue 1<br class="">> Message-ID:<br class="">> <<a href="mailto:29774168.1444256.1516112647332.JavaMail.zimbra@ntc.gov.sd" class="">29774168.1444256.1516112647332.JavaMail.zimbra@ntc.gov.sd</a>><br class="">> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8<br class="">><br class="">> I believe If we want to rebalance the language gap we have to target large communities and reach the largest segment of them. Arabic-speaking African countries are more than ten countries. So, it's of high importance that the site should be translated into Arabic to ensure greater access to the community. It's worth mentioning that the main reason why Arab don't participate in AfriNIC or any other ICT-related event is the language.<br class="">> As to who is going to do the translation, we can ask help from Arab volunteers. I, myself, would be very happy to participate in the translation process.<br class="">><br class="">> Mohammed Yousif<br class="">><br class="">> ??? ????? ????? ??????? ?? ?????? ??????? ????? ???????? ????????? ??????? ??????? ??? ???? ????? ????. ??????? ????????? ??????? ?????? ??????? ?? ???? ?? ???? ???? ??? ?????? ?? ??? ????? ?????? ??? ????? ??????? ????? ???? ???? ??? ???????. ?? ?????? ?????? ?? ????? ??????? ???? ?????? ????? ?? ?????? ?? ????????? ?????? ????????? ????????? ?????????? ?? ?????.<br class="">> ???? ??????? ??????? ?????? ???? ?? ?????? ???? ??????? ????? ????????? ???????? ??? ?????? ???? ? ?????? ?? ???? ??? ?? ???? ???????.<br class="">> ???? ????<br class="">><br class="">> The Arabic-speaking African countries, that are more than ten<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><hr id="zwchr" class=""><br class="">> From: "Nishal Goburdhan" <<a href="mailto:nishal@controlfreak.co.za" class="">nishal@controlfreak.co.za</a>><br class="">> To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net" class="">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a><br class="">> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 7:57:20 PM<br class="">> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Community-Discuss Digest, Vol 252, Issue 1<br class="">><br class="">> On 10 Jan 2018, at 17:28, Kangamutima zabika Christophe wrote:<br class="">><br class="">>> Monsieur Barrett,<br class="">>><br class="">>> Pouvez vous nous ?clairer sur l'?tat d'avancement du processus de<br class="">>> traduction des pages web du site internet d'Afrinic en fran?ais? Un<br class="">>> mois apr?s AFRINIC27 o? vous et votre administration avez promis ?<br class="">>> la communaut? francophone de mettre les bouch?es double afin de<br class="">>> r??quilibrer la fracture linguistique subie par la communaut?<br class="">>> d'internautes africains francophones.<br class="">><br class="">> ???? ?? ????? ??????? ?<br class="">><br class="">> _______________________________________________<br class="">> Community-Discuss mailing list<br class="">> <a href="mailto:Community-Discuss@afrinic.net" class="">Community-Discuss@afrinic.net</a><br class="">> <a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss" class="">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss</a><br class="">><br class="">> ------------------------------<br class="">><br class="">> Message: 2<br class="">> Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 07:58:59 -0800<br class="">> From: <a href="mailto:sm+afrinic@elandsys.com" class="">sm+afrinic@elandsys.com</a><br class="">> To: Mohammed Yousif <<a href="mailto:mohammed@ntc.gov.sd" class="">mohammed@ntc.gov.sd</a>>,<br class="">> <a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net" class="">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a><br class="">> Subject: [Community-Discuss] Target large communities (was:<br class="">> Community-Discuss Digest, Vol 252, Issue 1)<br class="">> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:6.2.5.6.2.20180116070922.127abc40@elandnews.com" class="">6.2.5.6.2.20180116070922.127abc40@elandnews.com</a>><br class="">> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed<br class="">><br class="">> Hi Mohammed,<br class="">> At 06:24 AM 16-01-2018, <a href="mailto:mohammed@ntc.gov.sd" class="">mohammed@ntc.gov.sd</a> wrote:<br class="">>> I believe If we want to rebalance the language gap we have to target<br class="">>> large communities and reach the largest segment of them.<br class="">>> Arabic-speaking African countries are more than ten countries. So,<br class="">>> it's of high importance that the site should be translated into<br class="">>> Arabic to ensure greater access to the community. It's worth<br class="">>> mentioning that the main reason why Arab don't participate in<br class="">>> AfriNIC or any other ICT-related event is the language.<br class="">>> As to who is going to do the translation, we can ask help from Arab<br class="">>> volunteers. I, myself, would be very happy to participate in the<br class="">>> translation process.<br class="">><br class="">> Thank you for providing the above input. I wondered why the<br class="">> participation from Arabic-speaking African countries was relatively low.<br class="">><br class="">> Regards,<br class="">> S. Moonesamy<br class="">><br class="">> ------------------------------<br class="">><br class="">> Message: 3<br class="">> Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 13:45:30 -0800<br class="">> From: Owen DeLong <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" class="">owen@delong.com</a>><br class="">> To: <a href="mailto:sm+afrinic@elandsys.com" class="">sm+afrinic@elandsys.com</a><br class="">> Cc: <a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net" class="">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a><br class="">> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Target large communities (was:<br class="">> Community-Discuss Digest, Vol 252, Issue 1)<br class="">> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:CDFD0EC2-C527-4BAB-9429-3DF463270E05@delong.com" class="">CDFD0EC2-C527-4BAB-9429-3DF463270E05@delong.com</a>><br class="">> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8<br class="">><br class="">> If we?re looking for liguistic priority, perhaps we should focus on demographics by popluation?<br class="">><br class="">> This is my best attempt to incorporate both native and non-native speaker statistics. Reliable sources for the information are difficult to find and it took multiple sources using inconsistent data formats to attempt to compile the list.<br class="">><br class="">> Sources included a variety of wikipedia pages and other google searched locations.<br class="">><br class="">> I?m the first to admit this is not a scientific survey and may have issues with accuracy.<br class="">><br class="">> In order, the top 10 are:<br class="">><br class="">> English (196M)<br class="">> Arabic (140MM)<br class="">> French (120MM)<br class="">> Swahili or Kiswahili (100MM)<br class="">> Hausa (70MM)<br class="">> Berber (56MM)<br class="">> Yoruba (28MM)<br class="">> Oromo (26MM)<br class="">> Amharic (22MM)<br class="">> Igbo (18MM)<br class="">><br class="">> Total: 776MM<br class="">><br class="">> So the top 10 languages would cover roughly 15/16ths of the population.<br class="">> If we move cover the top 5, we get 626MM or roughly 3/4 of the population.<br class="">> The top 3 (English, Arabic, French) will cover 456MM or roughly 1/2 of the population.<br class="">><br class="">> I do find it interesting that the first African language comes in at number 4.<br class="">><br class="">> Owen<br class="">><br class="">>> On Jan 16, 2018, at 07:58 ,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:sm+afrinic@elandsys.com" class="">sm+afrinic@elandsys.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<br class="">>><br class="">>> Hi Mohammed,<br class="">>> At 06:24 AM 16-01-2018,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:mohammed@ntc.gov.sd" class="">mohammed@ntc.gov.sd</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<br class="">>>> I believe If we want to rebalance the language gap we have to target large communities and reach the largest segment of them. Arabic-speaking African countries are more than ten countries. So, it's of high importance that the site should be translated into Arabic to ensure greater access to the community. It's worth mentioning that the main reason why Arab don't participate in AfriNIC or any other ICT-related event is the language.<br class="">>>> As to who is going to do the translation, we can ask help from Arab volunteers. I, myself, would be very happy to participate in the translation process.<br class="">>><br class="">>> Thank you for providing the above input. I wondered why the participation from Arabic-speaking African countries was relatively low.<br class="">>><br class="">>> Regards,<br class="">>> S. Moonesamy<br class="">>><br class="">>> _______________________________________________<br class="">>> Community-Discuss mailing list<br class="">>> <a href="mailto:Community-Discuss@afrinic.net" class="">Community-Discuss@afrinic.net</a><br class="">>> <a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss" class="">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss</a><br class="">><br class="">> ------------------------------<br class="">><br class="">> Subject: Digest Footer<br class="">><br class="">> _______________________________________________<br class="">> Community-Discuss mailing list<br class="">> <a href="mailto:Community-Discuss@afrinic.net" class="">Community-Discuss@afrinic.net</a><br class="">> <a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss" class="">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss</a><br class="">><br class="">> ------------------------------<br class="">><br class="">> End of Community-Discuss Digest, Vol 257, Issue 1<br class="">> *************************************************<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div>-- <br class="">KANGAMUTIMA ZABIKA<br class="">Contrôleur des douanes<br class="">Direction des Systèmes et Technologies de l'Information<br class="">Direction Générale des Douanes et<br class="">Accises<br class="">DRC<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Community-Discuss mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Community-Discuss@afrinic.net" class="">Community-Discuss@afrinic.net</a><br class="">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><span style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">_______________________________________________</span><br style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Community-Discuss mailing list</span><br style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><a href="mailto:Community-Discuss@afrinic.net" style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">Community-Discuss@afrinic.net</a><br style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss" style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss</a></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>