<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Absolutely.<br><br><div><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.294118); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373);"><b>Ali Hussein</b></span></div><div><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.294118); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373);"><b>Principal</b></span></div><div><b style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Hussein & Associates</b></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">+254 0713 601113 </div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><br></div><div><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Twitter: @AliHKassim</span></p><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><font></font></span><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Skype: abu-jomo</span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">LinkedIn: <a href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" target="_blank">http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim</a></span></p><font><br></font></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle</span></div><div><br></div><div><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.294118); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373);"><br></span></div>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On 7 Jun 2017, at 6:52 PM, Noah <<a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz">noah@neo.co.tz</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="auto">+1 Ali<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Questions still have to be asked and answers have to be given.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Noah</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 7 Jun 2017 6:09 p.m., "Ali Hussein" <<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Noah</div><div id="m_-2198493318536398728AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="m_-2198493318536398728AppleMailSignature">We are saying the same thing.</div><div id="m_-2198493318536398728AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="m_-2198493318536398728AppleMailSignature">Mine is to just remind us of the slippery slop of engaging the Chair of the Board in operational matters. </div><div id="m_-2198493318536398728AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="m_-2198493318536398728AppleMailSignature">I've also said that there may be a flaw (key word being 'may') in the way executive responds to queries.<br><br><div><span><b>Ali Hussein</b></span></div><div><span><b>Principal</b></span></div><div><b style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Hussein & Associates</b></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium"><a href="tel:+254%20713%20601113" value="+254713601113" target="_blank">+254 0713 601113</a> </div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium"><br></div><div><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Twitter: @AliHKassim</span></p><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font></font></span><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Skype: abu-jomo</span></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">LinkedIn: <a href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" target="_blank">http://ke.linkedin.<wbr>com/in/alihkassim</a></span></p><font><br></font></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle</span></div><div><br></div><div><span><br></span></div>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On 7 Jun 2017, at 5:33 PM, Noah <<a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz" target="_blank">noah@neo.co.tz</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">Hi Hussein<div><br></div><div>The Financial Statement is public and am not not sure if you spent time to read through it.</div><div><br></div><div>The questions that the membership/community have asked here are based on the same Financial Statement that was publicly published.</div><div><br></div><div>This same financial statement has to go through board approval and the board before approval shares this information with the public and membership for transparency and the questions that are raised from the membership/community are as result of what has been read and scrutinized either on the mailing list or the public AGMM meeting like the one we had in Nairobi when the board and the entire membership/community went through this financials.</div><div><br></div><div>What is wrong with that.?</div><div><br></div><div>Noah </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 5:18 PM, Ali Hussein <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke" target="_blank">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Dear all</div><div id="m_-2198493318536398728m_5728360713459177949AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="m_-2198493318536398728m_5728360713459177949AppleMailSignature">Allow me to interject. </div><div id="m_-2198493318536398728m_5728360713459177949AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="m_-2198493318536398728m_5728360713459177949AppleMailSignature">We are creating a dangerous precedence of engaging the Afrinic Board on operational matters. There must be a clear separation of Executive roles and Board roles. This is simply good corporate governance. It's also important to protect the board from claims of interference in day to day running of the Organisation.</div><div id="m_-2198493318536398728m_5728360713459177949AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="m_-2198493318536398728m_5728360713459177949AppleMailSignature">Having said that I concur with members concerns about Business Continuity. Towards that I propose that appropriate members of respective departments at Afrinic be empowered to respond to respective queries pertaining to the operations of the organization.</div><div id="m_-2198493318536398728m_5728360713459177949AppleMailSignature"><br><div><span><b>Ali Hussein</b></span></div><div><span><b>Principal</b></span></div><div><b style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Hussein & Associates</b></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium"><a href="tel:+254%20713%20601113" value="+254713601113" target="_blank">+254 0713 601113</a> </div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium"><br></div><div><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Twitter: @AliHKassim</span></p><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font></font></span><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Skype: abu-jomo</span></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">LinkedIn: <a href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" target="_blank">http://ke.linkedin.c<wbr>om/in/alihkassim</a></span></p><font><br></font></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle</span></div><div><br></div><div><span><br></span></div>Sent from my iPad</div><div><div class="m_-2198493318536398728h5"><div><br>On 7 Jun 2017, at 4:43 PM, Sunday Folayan <<a href="mailto:sfolayan@gmail.com" target="_blank">sfolayan@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
<p>Dear Daniel,</p>
<p>My apologies, I thought I had responded to your request, but alas
I did not. I am truly sorry. Here goes ...</p>
<p>1. Members who did not settle their bills as at Q1 March of each
year. <br>
</p>
<p> 2014 - 34%</p>
<p> 2015 - 25%</p>
<p> 2016 - 20%</p>
<p> 2017 - 16%</p>
<p>2. Revenue from Late penalties</p>
<p> 2014 - $98,329 [352 members] 3% of Total Revenue.<br>
</p>
<p> 2015 - $119,395 [215 members] 3% of Total Revenue<br>
</p>
<p> 2016 - $165,193 [340 members] 3% of Total Revenue<br>
</p>
<p> 2017 - $170,000 [372 members] 4% of Total revenue<br>
</p>
<p>3. Analyses of unpaid as at Q1 March 2017<br>
</p>
<p> Education & Research Institutions - 4%</p>
<p> Government and Government Agencies - 5%</p>
<p> Other Resource Members - 91%<br>
</p>
<p>So, From 34% default in 2014, we are now down to 16% default in
2017.<br>
</p>
<p>I hope the above answers your questions.</p>
<p>Kind regards ...</p>
<p>Sunday Folayan.<br>
</p>
<p>Chair, AFRINIC Board.<br>
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Polite reminder. Any feedback will be greatly appreciated.
Regards,
Daniel
On 2017-05-31 13:32, Mwanguhya Daniel Murungi wrote:
> Dear Chair,
>
> Hope all is well with you and the rest of the team. I skimmed through
> the 2016 financial statement and I see that from the revenue
> collected, there is no clear indication regarding the penalties
> AFRINIC charges members.
>
> Can the total amount of penalty fees for the financial year 2016 be
> published as well?
>
> Regards,
>
> Daniel
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> On 2017-05-26 08:39, Badru Ntege wrote:
>>> 2017-05-25 8:13 GMT+00:00 Sunday Folayan <a class="m_-2198493318536398728m_5728360713459177949moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:sfolayan@skannet.com" target="_blank"><sfolayan@skannet.com></a>:
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>>>> Mzee Noah,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your wishes.
>>>>
>>>> Do not confuse the rights to see, discuss and query.
>>>>
>>>> Because we are transparent and a public institution, the public
>>>> has the right to see, the public has the right to discuss.
>>
>> I'm I reading this wrong or does it say the public does not have the
>> right to query ??
>>
>>>> Members however have the right to query any details in the
>>>> Financials.
>>
>> Interesting boundaries being set here.
>>
>> I really like the concept of Bottom up processes and governance but
>> maybe needs to be updated
>>
>>>>
>>
>> BN.
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General data Engineering Services (SKANNET)
16 Oshin Road, Kongi Bodija, Ibadan - Nigeria
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