<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 14, 2016, at 6:23 PM, Owen DeLong <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" class="">owen@delong.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">That wasn't an issue of illegality of AfriNIC. </div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">The issue was whether or not the limit on the number of proxies carried by a single member would survive a legal challenge. </div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>Yes. This discussion went into this as some argued that setting the limit to 5 per person violate the act and so AFRINIC not operating lawfully. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">The advice from counsel is that it most likely would not. Further, it seems that the companies act requires proxies.</div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>… And we explained that in the context of Company act, the limit of 5 proxies is legal. as Company act only recognise the nine(9) board members as AFRINIC members(Registered Members).</div><div><br class=""></div><div>As discussed, the limit of proxy to 5 per person and zero proxy per candidate in the bylaws(which applied to Registered members and "Resources Members") was decided by this community to solve some issues to the elections process. As the changes discussed here are about improving accountability, encouraging participation through all means should be encouraged instead of allowing unlimited proxies.</div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""></div><div>—Alain</div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""></div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""> Therefore even though it seems illogical to maintain proxies in the face of electronic voting, until such time as the law catches up with technology, proxies must be accepted. </div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">One person suggested that if we don't like this, AfriNIC could go jurisdiction shopping. That's true, but in my experience, every jurisdiction has its trade offs and I believe the proxy requirement in MU law is not enough of a reason to undertake such an exercise. </div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">Indeed, I feel that there should be no limits on the number of members who can appoint a particular person to be their proxy. I believe the argument about "vote buying" is specious because in reality, proxy limitation does nothing to reduce it. If you are buying votes, it isn't any harder to get them delivered by multiple proxies than by one. </div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">Further, since board members are not significantly compensated for their role, I fail to see the economic value in attempting to buy an AfriNIC election. </div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">Owen</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br class="">On Nov 11, 2016, at 22:17, Marcus K. G. Adomey <<a href="mailto:madomey@hotmail.com" class="">madomey@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><div class=""><div id="divtagdefaultwrapper" dir="ltr" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span class="">Hi Dewole,</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span class=""><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span class="">Kindly read<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2016-October/000863.html" class="OWAAutoLink" id="LPlnk559392" previewremoved="true">https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2016-October/000863.html</a></span><br class=""></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">Thanks</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">Marcus</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div></div><hr tabindex="-1" style="display: inline-block; width: 778.109375px;" class=""><div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr" class=""><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Dewole Ajao <<a href="mailto:dewole@tinitop.com" class="">dewole@tinitop.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, November 11, 2016 2:58:33 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Marcus K. G. Adomey; General Discussions of AFRINIC<br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Community-Discuss] Issue of AfriNIC illegality</font><div class=""> </div></div><div class=""><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">Hi Marcus,</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">I'm not holding brief for the Chairman and/or CEO but since you have sent this to the community, I'm hoping I'm not the only whose curiosity has been stimulated to peak levels. Please share references to this "illegality" you speak of so we are better informed.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">Regards,</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">Dewole.<br class=""></div><br class=""><div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/11/2016 15:47, Marcus K. G. Adomey wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote cite="mid:DB6PR0601MB2183A726027479F04046214EB9BB0@DB6PR0601MB2183.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com" type="cite" class=""><div id="divtagdefaultwrapper" dir="ltr" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><div class="">Dear Chairman and CEO of AfriNIC,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The discussion on accountability on this list led to the issue of the illegality of AfriNIC. At this stage of the affairs of AfriNIC, we are about to adopt changes to the bylaws. My question is:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Has the issue of AfriNIC illegality been addressed before proceeding with the discussion on the bylaw? </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Have I missed a something? If so forgive me.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thank you,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Marcus</div><br class=""></div><br class=""><fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset><br class=""><pre wrap="" class="">_______________________________________________
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