<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 10, 2016, at 12:54 AM, Owen DeLong <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" class="">owen@delong.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">On Nov 9, 2016, at 03:14 , ALAIN AINA <<a href="mailto:aalain@trstech.net" class="">aalain@trstech.net</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Nov 9, 2016, at 3:01 PM, Alan Barrett <<a href="mailto:alan.barrett@afrinic.net" class="">alan.barrett@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On 9 Nov 2016, at 16:16, ALAIN AINA <<a href="mailto:aalain@trstech.net" class="">aalain@trstech.net</a>> wrote:<br class="">Hmmm. Are we moving the PDPWG powers in board hands? I do not understand the concept of deadlock in our bottom-up PDP ruled by "Rough Consensus” and not “Full Consensus". I would expect to see all times, effort made by all parties(including board) to reach rough consensus on adoption/rejection… and not board making decisions. Is this not a discussion for the PDPWG ?<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">The Bylaws have always given the Board the power to make policy without going throgh the PDWG process. The Board has never exercised that power in the past, but the ability is there in the Bylaws in case a good reason appears in the future. We are talking about reducing that power so that the Board cannot abuse it.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">Good Alan, but the way it was presented does not sound same as your last text.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">But It was also proposed to just remove board adopting policy from bylaws and only depend on the PDP. May be an updated version of the PDP ?<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""></blockquote><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">I’m having trouble parsing this, but any of the parsings I came up with seem to indicate that you are reading a different list than I am reading because that is not at all what I have seen proposed here.</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2016-June/000343.html" class="">https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2016-June/000343.html</a> response to point 12</div><div><br class=""></div><div>One should admit that the format of the discussions on this important accountability improvement does not make it easy to follow and digest, but other alternatives suggested were not accepted.</div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""></div><div>Thanks</div><div><br class=""></div><div>—Alain</div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""></div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Owen</span></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>