<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">For hiring, I completely agree with you.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">For firing, I think that the bar here is sufficiently high that it is not unreasonable to allow it to apply to the CEO as well.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Really, if there is such overwhelming desire by the community to remove the CEO that it reaches this threshold, do you believe it is good governance for the board to keep such person in place?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Owen</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 6, 2016, at 19:43 , Seun Ojedeji <<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com" class="">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><div class=""><div class="">Hi Owen,<br class=""><br class=""></div>In the interest of good governance and proper respect of process and structure, I believe that the ability to hire and fire the CEO should remain solely with the Board of Directors. Nevertheless, the Board could consider providing a separate guideline(outside of the bylaw) that enables members to express their dissatisfaction about a particular CEO's action.<br class=""><br class=""></div>Regards<br class=""></div><div class="gmail_extra" style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 6:00 AM, Owen DeLong<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" target="_blank" class="">owen@delong.com</a>></span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div style="word-wrap: break-word;" class="">Should the CEO be exempt if he/she becomes sufficiently unpopular with the membership that they are able to recall him through this process?<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">No disrespect to the current CEO intended (and I can’t imagine such a petition succeeding against him anyway), but I see no reason the position should be exempt from such a challenge.</div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Owen</div></font></span><div class=""><div class="h5"><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 5, 2016, at 02:23 , Seun Ojedeji <<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_2549715025403634461Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><p dir="ltr" class="">Hello Alan,</p><p dir="ltr" class="">Thanks for sending this across, a few "personal" comments below:</p><p dir="ltr" class="">1. For item 7: I think 13.8b is sufficient hence 13.8c may not be needed; We don't have to formerly restrict things to that extent.</p><p dir="ltr" class="">2. For item 12: I am not sure the proposed resolution would change the fact that registered members can change the bylaw(as per the act). Even though I have no problem with your proposed changes.</p><p dir="ltr" class="">3. For item 16: This seem to imply that the registered member who is subject to removal still has a vote. I have no problem with that, just want to be sure that was your intent.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p><p dir="ltr" class="">Secondly while I do not expect this clause to be used often/never(well I hope). It will be good to explicitly exclude the CEO to be opened to such removal process (even though i know it's implied).<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p><p dir="ltr" class="">In an almost impossible situation where there are quite a number of removal that could affect the work of the Board (like forming a quorum), it may be good to clarify what would happen to the seats.</p><p dir="ltr" class="">Regards<br class="">Sent from my LG G4<br class="">Kindly excuse brevity and typos</p><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On 4 Nov 2016 23:57, "Alan Barrett" <<a href="mailto:alan.barrett@afrinic.net" target="_blank" class="">alan.barrett@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution" class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex;">Dear community,<br class=""><br class="">Here is the next round of suggestions for Bylaws changes.<br class=""><br class="">In cases where the previous proposal identified an issue but did not propose text, I am now proposing text. I am also proposing a few additional changes to address issues raised by others. Finally, I am proposing a change to address a problem with approving the annual financial statements.<br class=""><br class="">I intend to propose all these bylaws changes as special resolutions at the AFRINIC-25 SGMM, possibly with edits resulting from further review and discussion.<br class=""><br class="">Alan Barrett<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">______________________________<wbr class="">_________________<br class="">Community-Discuss mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Community-Discuss@afrinic.net" target="_blank" class="">Community-Discuss@afrinic.net</a><br class=""><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://lists.afrinic.net/mail<wbr class="">man/listinfo/community-discuss</a><br class=""><br class=""></blockquote></div></div>______________________________<wbr class="">_________________<br class="">Community-Discuss mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Community-Discuss@afrinic.net" target="_blank" class="">Community-Discuss@afrinic.net</a><br class=""><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss" target="_blank" class="">https://lists.afrinic.net/<wbr class="">mailman/listinfo/community-<wbr class="">discuss</a><br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""><br clear="all" class=""><br class="">--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">------------------------------------------------------------------------<br class=""><font color="#888888" class=""><blockquote style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex; font-family: garamond, serif;" class=""><i class=""><span style="color: rgb(0, 102, 0);" class="">Seun Ojedeji,<br style="color: rgb(0, 102, 0);" class=""></span><span style="color: rgb(0, 102, 0);" class="">Federal University Oye-Ekiti<br style="color: rgb(0, 102, 0);" class=""></span><span style="color: rgb(0, 102, 0);" class="">web: <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="http://www.fuoye.edu.ng/" target="_blank" class="">http://www.fuoye.edu.ng</a><br class=""><span style="color: rgb(0, 102, 0);" class=""></span><span style="color: rgb(0, 102, 0);" class="">Mobile:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a value="+2348035233535" class="">+2348035233535</a></span><span style="color: rgb(0, 102, 0);" class=""></span><br class=""></i><i class=""><span style="color: rgb(0, 102, 0);" class="">alt email:<a href="http://goog_1872880453/" target="_blank" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></a><a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@fuoye.edu.ng" target="_blank" class="">seun.ojedeji@fuoye.edu.ng</a></span></i><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;" class="">Bringing another down does not take you up - think about your action!</blockquote></blockquote></font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>