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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Dewole,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">That information is already available based on space allocated. It would be a violation of the MSA and privacy clauses to disclose
any application before it is granted.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The whois database contains the rest of the information as does the delegation database, just a matter of correlating them. I for
one would not support AfriNIC directly exposing the names of clients being allocated space, as I believe that it violates aspects of the MSA and violates the principles of trust.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"> Dewole Ajao [mailto:dewole@tinitop.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> 07 November 2016 18:15<br>
<b>To:</b> mje@posix.co.za; General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Community-Discuss] Regular updates on Number Resource Applications and Approvals<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>Responsibility of requesting entities is what I meant, Mark. Please do not attempt to declare anything on my behalf.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>If an applicant knows the community sees in realtime, he/she is less likely to put in phony stuff that just wastes the hostmasters' time and increases the time taken to process legit requests.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Dewole.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 07/11/2016 16:09, Mark Elkins wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<pre>On 07/11/2016 16:53, Dewole Ajao wrote:<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>Once a week is good. ARIN has a daily issued feed but that's a bit<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>different from what I'm suggesting.<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>I agree the actual allocated/assigned ranges need not be disclosed; I do<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>however think that sharing the names of (applicant) organizations will<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>help with responsibility and possibly reduce the occurrence of phony<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>applications (if there have been any).<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>Isn't that basically declaring you don't trust AFRINIC staff to do the<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>right thing?<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>What I tend to hear (happened twice today) is that the Hostmasters are<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>so strict - its extremely difficult to get things done (according to the<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>entities moaning at me).<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>I therefore trust the Hostmasters - they are doing the right thing.<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>Dewole.<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>On 07/11/2016 15:35, Mark Elkins wrote:<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>Interesting. I think though a once-a-week stats figure would be<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>sufficient - perhaps with a projected end date?<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>I've seen that before somewhere....<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>AFRINIC should not give out the names of the organisations receiving the<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>address space or the actual ranges themselves though.<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>On 07/11/2016 16:29, Dewole Ajao wrote:<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>Dear Community,<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>I was wondering if anyone else thinks it would be useful to see<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>weekly/daily details (in human readable format) of new applications and<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>approvals for Internet number resources perhaps as a weekly/daily email<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>from AFRINIC to this (or the members) list.<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>Given increased depletion rates, I think having these details in<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>(almost) real-time will increase the community's awareness rather than<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>rely solely on the biannual statistical updates (which in any case do<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>not contain details of who is making attempts to acquire number<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>resources). I think the Org Name, Country, Type and size of resource<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>requested/approved would be even more useful than the resource type/size<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>and country data already available in delegation stats at<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><a href="ftp://ftp.afrinic.net/pub/stats/afrinic/">ftp://ftp.afrinic.net/pub/stats/afrinic/</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>This would be purely operational and a community value addition so it<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>should not require a new policy, right?<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>Regards,<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>Dewole Ajao.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>(in my capacity as a community member)<o:p></o:p></pre>
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