<div dir="ltr"><div>It is good to see that Liquid Telecom has joined Seacom and others who have been doing their best to advance IPv6 deployment in the continent without waiting for IPv4 depletion. </div><div><br></div><div>This is the way to go because from recent research I read on the Internet which makes it clear that IPv4 depletion does not lead to IPv6 uptake. In fact, I am surprised that Owen Delong continues to advise that this is the way because the data was from Akamai which I hear he works for. Please see attached slide. The presentation on the study was given at a recent LACNIC meeting - <a href="http://slides.lacnic.net/lacnic26/">http://slides.lacnic.net/lacnic26/</a> - <a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/zxmygx5djtj6cxl/4%20-%20IPv6-GDP.pptx?dl=0">https://www.dropbox.com/s/zxmygx5djtj6cxl/4%20-%20IPv6-GDP.pptx?dl=0</a></div><div><br></div><div>In the Afrinic meeting in Botswana, I learned from the Softlanding-BIS proposal presentation that almost 90% of those with resources are in the micro to very small category. This means that these people are unlikely to prioritise IPv6 so we need to find the motivation for IPv6 growth elsewhere. Even when they get allocations, they depend on their upstreams to route these addresses.</div><div><br></div><div>My suggestion is that the Afrinic community organises itself better and builds on the small successes in the region. We can target more key stakeholders like bigger ISPs and telcos, regulators, NRENs, government networks who can make the difference.</div><div><br></div><div>It is not about Africa being last. We need to look at the realities honestly and act as a community.</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Honest Ornella GANKPA<br></div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div href="http://WISESTAMP_SIG_gmail_session"></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">2016-10-18 12:47 GMT+01:00 sergekbk <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sergekbk@gmail.com" target="_blank">sergekbk@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div>Yes Andrew. </div><div>"The Internet Number Resources review by AFRINIC” policy covers all allocated/assigned resources. <br><br>See <a href="http://www.afrinic.net/community/policy-development/policy-proposals/1827-internet-number-resources-review-by-afrinic" target="_blank">http://www.afrinic.net/<wbr>community/policy-development/<wbr>policy-proposals/1827-<wbr>internet-number-resources-<wbr>review-by-afrinic</a>"</div></div><div><br></div><div>With Regards.</div><div><br></div><div id="m_4118203959463964618composer_signature"><b><i>Serge Ilunga</i></b><div><b><i>Cell: <a href="tel:%2B243814443160" value="+243814443160" target="_blank">+243814443160</a></i></b></div><div><b><i>Skype: sergekbk</i></b></div><div><b><i>R.D.Congo</i></b></div></div><div style="font-size:100%;color:#000000"><span class=""><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Andrew Alston <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com" target="_blank">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.<wbr>com</a>> </div><div>Date: 10/14/2016 21:17 (GMT+01:00) </div><div>To: Jean-Baptiste MILLOGO <<a href="mailto:jbmillogo@gmail.com" target="_blank">jbmillogo@gmail.com</a>>, Omo Oaiya <<a href="mailto:Omo.Oaiya@wacren.net" target="_blank">Omo.Oaiya@wacren.net</a>> </div><div>Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC <<a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net" target="_blank">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a><wbr>> </div></span><span class=""><div>Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] IPv6 Chapter 254 </div><div><br></div></span></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Just a question about the audit policy….<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Is it agreed that if we have such a policy, we should also audit the v6 assignments people are holding that should be announced under the needs based policy rules?</span></p>
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</b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">Jean-Baptiste MILLOGO <<a href="mailto:jbmillogo@gmail.com" target="_blank">jbmillogo@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, 14 October 2016 at 23:14<br>
<b>To: </b>Omo Oaiya <<a href="mailto:Omo.Oaiya@wacren.net" target="_blank">Omo.Oaiya@wacren.net</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>General Discussions of AFRINIC <<a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net" target="_blank">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a><wbr>>, Andrew Alston <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com" target="_blank">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.<wbr>com</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Community-Discuss] IPv6 Chapter 254<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p>Thank a lot Omo.<br>
Audit policy will helps us to figure out where the numbers end<u></u><u></u></p>
</span><p><span class="">Le 14 oct. 2016 18:27, "Omo Oaiya" <<a href="mailto:Omo.Oaiya@wacren.net" target="_blank">Omo.Oaiya@wacren.net</a>> a écrit :<br>
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> On 14 October 2016 at 17:34, Andrew Alston <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com" target="_blank">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.<wbr>com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> We all have our worries about Cloud Innovation – but if you’re going to give stats to the list – at least make them accurate.<br>
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>> Cloud innovation according to the AfriNIC database has 2 /12s and 1 /11, which is 33% below what you claim in your email below.<br>
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> whois -B -h <a href="http://whois.afrinic.net" target="_blank">whois.afrinic.net</a> -r -T aut-num -T inet6num -T inetnum -i og 'ORG-CIL1-AFRINIC'<br>
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>> Some interesting things about this space though. The majority of it (shockingly) is announced out of South Africa and visible via the South African internet exchanges. *Shrug*<br>
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> I wonder how correct that is if you got the numbers wrong. The point however was that the addresses are being depleted so the noise is not necessary. <br>
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> I'd also like to remind you that you are a board member and your commentary is often inappropriate and unbecoming .... regardless of disclaimers.<br>
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