<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">Hello Andrew,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I respect Afrinic Directors and follow good rules of conduct. So I will not return to the disparaging words used in your response to me.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Let me put this in a few points here again:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">1- I never said to not follow or comply with Law</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">2- I called for clear understanding between an Act provision applying to “registered members” and not to “resources members”.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">2- AFRINIC has always followed the Act, laws, but also accommodates its community oversight.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The limit at “5” of the number of proxy is lawful when applied to “registered members”. How ?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Quorum at Members general meeting is set as follow:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">======</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">ii) The quorum for an Annual General Member meeting shall be composed of minimum of ten (10) members in person comprising:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">a) Four (4) Directors elected to represent a region;</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">b) One (1) Director elected on a non-regional criterion; and</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">c) Five (5) Resource Members.</div><div class="">==========</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So five (5) registered members in person are required.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">With nine (9) registered members in total and a quorum requirement of five (5) members in person how many proxies can a registered member carry to a valid AGMM ?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The limit to “5” means “no limit for the registered members” and that complies to the act.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Hope this helps</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">—Alain</div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Oct 2, 2016, at 12:26 PM, Andrew Alston <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com" class="">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri;" class="">Mirriam,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri;" class=""> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri;" class="">I was speaking in my personal capacity – firstly - and I stand by my right to do that.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri;" class=""> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri;" class="">Secondly – What was the point? Let me tell you a story – In Djibouti there was an attempt to block several proxies using an argument of company stamps. That argument went on for many days – it was eventually invalidated – because it was determined that it would disenfranchise the members who had no company stamps and was invalid. However, it was a direct attempt to stop certain things through the change of the rules (well, that is my impression).<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri;" class=""> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri;" class="">I take serious issue with this statement specifically:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri;" class=""> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""><b class=""><i class=""><u class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class="">One would expect the debate to stay at the community level and not involve the Act. The community to discuss and agree on how to manage this issue.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></u></i></b></div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class=""> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class="">You cannot ignore the act – I am not a lawyer – my reading of the act is in laymans terms – and there are many lawyers that can contradict what I’m saying and I’m ok with that. I was NOT arguing from the perspective of proxies here – look at the holistic essence of my email – the only place I referenced proxies was as a specific example of how the companies act can restrict the bylaws from overriding it.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class=""> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class="">What I was saying is that leaving the act out of an argument about the bylaws doesn’t make sense and is – in my view – irresponsible. The act is supreme and overriding, and ignoring it can have serious consequences.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class=""> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class="">I stand by the position that ignoring the law is dangerous.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class=""> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class="">Andrew<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class=""> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class=""> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class=""> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri;" class="">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: Calibri;" class="">Mirriam <<a href="mailto:mirriamlauren@yahoo.com" class="">mirriamlauren@yahoo.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Reply-To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Mirriam <<a href="mailto:mirriamlauren@yahoo.com" class="">mirriamlauren@yahoo.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Date:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Sunday, 2 October 2016 at 10:36<br class=""><b class="">To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Andrew Alston <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com" class="">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Cc:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>General Discussions of AFRINIC <<a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net" class="">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment - quorum<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475392259520_25862" style="margin-left: 20.25pt; margin-top: 3pt; margin-right: 19.5pt; word-wrap: break-word;" class=""><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475392259520_25863" class=""><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475392259520_25864" class=""><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475392259520_25865" class=""><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475392259520_25866" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue';" class="">On 1 Oct 2016 19:07, "Andrew Alston" <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com" class="">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>> wrote:<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475392259520_25867" class="">><br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475392259520_25868" class="">> Alain,<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475392259520_25869" class="">><br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475392259520_25870" class="">> Quite frankly – I think what you have said here is, at best, extremely naive and at worst incredibly irresponsible.<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475392259520_25871" class="">><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475392259520_25866" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue';" class="">><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475392259520_25872" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue';" class="">Hi Andrew,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475392259520_25873" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue';" class="">You need to calm down. No one here is naive or irresponsible so mind how you respond to others and have some respect else Afrinic code of conduct comes into play and i hope the CEO and Chair will caution you.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475392259520_25874" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue';" class="">In fact your message is full of exaggeration. What exactly is your point considering following this discussion you seem to have jumped arguments from company bylaws to company act?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475392259520_25875" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue';" class="">Everyone herein is well aware that our " Afrinic is a private company registered in Mauritius with a Community Oversight through its Bylaws and remains a community/resource members driven organisation" otherwise we would not all be here deliberating on how to improve the organisation.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475392259520_25876" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue';" class="">You are one of the directors elected to the board to respresent the very resource members who elected you and as such you are answerable to us just as all the other directors who the membership sends to the board.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475392259520_25877" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue';" class="">So what exactly is your point with that long email as what was being discussed was plain simple proxy limits?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475392259520_25877" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue';" class=""> </span></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475392259520_25878" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue';" class="">Mirriam<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475392259520_25879" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; 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