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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=Boubakar.Barry@wacren.net
href="mailto:Boubakar.Barry@wacren.net">Boubakar Barry</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 19, 2016 12:44 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=community-discuss@afrinic.net
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [members-discuss] [Community-Discuss] Accountability
assessment- bylaws changes</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 9:05 PM, Jackson Muthili <SPAN
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Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Douglas Onyango <<A
href="mailto:ondouglas@gmail.com">ondouglas@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR>>
Hi Alan,<BR>> Thanks for sharing this document. It will form a solid basis
for continued<BR>> deliberation on amendments of the
bylaws.<BR>><BR>> Regarding #1, specifically the Associate Members'
right to (or not) vote, I<BR>> was, and still I am opposed to the idea of
rescinding the Associate Members<BR>> rights to vote.<BR>><BR>>
Rationale: when an Associate Member is stripped of the right to
vote,<BR>> he/she is in reality as empowered -- or un-empowered -- as the
rest of the<BR>> AFRINIC community. AFRINIC would effectively be asking
Associate members and<BR>> prospects to fork out Associate Membership fees,
but offering nothing over<BR>> and above "AFRINIC community" status, which
poses at least two problems:<BR>> First, NO ONE of sound mind, with full
understanding of these facts, would<BR>> want to be an Associate members,
and secondly, AFRINIC would be out-rightly<BR>> fleecing its members
by charging membership fees and providing no value in<BR>> return, neither
one of which is desirable.<BR>><BR>> Therefore, the Associate Membership
category should be imbued with voting<BR>> rights -- or some other value
add that is codified in the bylaws, barring<BR>> which the category should
effectively be expunged from the bylaws.<BR><BR></SPAN>+1<BR><BR>If any tier
is named "member", such as "associate member"; such tier<BR>MUST be given
voting rights. Absent of this - it would be a useless<BR>membership status.
Why be a member of an establishment that cannot let<BR>one exercise a simple
right like a vote to enable effect change?<BR><BR>Let associate members vote
or get rid of this membership tier. Simple.<BR>
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<DIV>Not sure it's as simple as that.<BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Do we want to encourage people/organisations to be be associate members
just because of granted voting rights that have the potential of affecting
resource members only?<BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV>I know of organisations in which members are happy to be non-voting
associate members because it gives them opportunities to contribute financially
to the sustainability of these organisations, without benefiting from core
services. Just because they share values of these organisations and want to
support them.<BR><BR>We can of course think of advantages we can give to
associate members to acknowledge their commitment and support. But I would
not support giving voting rights to associate members. I would rather be for
removing this membership category instead.<BR><BR>B.<BR> <BR></DIV>
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<DIV class=h5><BR><BR>><BR>><BR>> Regards,<BR>><BR>> On 16
September 2016 at 17:17, Alan Barrett <<A
href="mailto:alan.barrett@afrinic.net">alan.barrett@afrinic.net</A>><BR>>
wrote:<BR>>><BR>>> On 10 June, I posted a document describing
potential areas for improvement<BR>>> in the Bylaws as a result of an
accountability assessment. I invited the<BR>>> community and
membership to comment on these issues.<BR>>><BR>>> I have
considered the discussion, and I have asked the legal adviser to<BR>>>
draft appropriate changes to the bylaws. In some cases, I have edited
the<BR>>> legal adviser’s text. In some cases, more drafting work
is needed and<BR>>> proposed text of bylaws changes is not yet
available.<BR>>><BR>>> I attach a document with the proposed
bylaws changes.<BR>>><BR>>> Alan Barrett<BR>>> CEO,
AFRINIC<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>
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