<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Mark’s clarification is exactly what I was referring to when I said that I<div class="">believed the board had adequate reasons not to place Badrue on the CoE.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I wasn’t on the board, but I was present at the Tunis meeting.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Owen</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 13, 2016, at 10:11 , Timothy Ola Akinfenwa <<a href="mailto:akin.akinfenwa@uniosun.edu.ng" class="">akin.akinfenwa@uniosun.edu.ng</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">+1 Mark. This clarification was indeed necessary. </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 5:54 PM, Mark Elkins <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:mje@posix.co.za" target="_blank" class="">mje@posix.co.za</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Badru stopped being the Chair of AFRINIC at the last Mauritius meeting.<br class="">
<br class="">
Badru left the Board over a year ago in Tunisia. He resigned after the<br class="">
Board had an impromptu meeting on stage during the meeting.<br class="">
I believe that one can guess he was asked to resign by the Board.<br class="">
<br class="">
There were a number of ugly words exchanged at that meeting and if you<br class="">
were present at that meeting, I believe that you would have got the idea<br class="">
that there was bad blood between various parties.<br class="">
<br class="">
I was on the Board at that time. Personally, I would not have agreed to<br class="">
having Badru in the honourably position of being a community elder (as<br class="">
such, CoE).<br class="">
<br class="">
Any Board Member who steps down and who causes such disarray and<br class="">
hostility should expect to be kept at a distance. Please, I'm not trying<br class="">
to pick on Badru, but on the situation and actions at the time. It would<br class="">
not be rational to then honour such a past Chairperson with a seat on<br class="">
the CoE.<br class="">
<span class=""><br class="">
On 13/07/2016 09:40, Owen DeLong wrote:<br class="">
><br class="">
>> On Jul 12, 2016, at 22:01 , Omo Oaiya <<a href="mailto:Omo.Oaiya@wacren.net" class="">Omo.Oaiya@wacren.net</a><br class="">
</span><span class="">>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:Omo.Oaiya@wacren.net" class="">Omo.Oaiya@wacren.net</a>>> wrote:<br class="">
>><br class="">
>><br class="">
>><br class="">
>> On 12 July 2016 at 21:03, Mike Silber <<a href="mailto:silber.mike@gmail.com" class="">silber.mike@gmail.com</a><br class="">
</span><div class=""><div class="h5">>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:silber.mike@gmail.com" class="">silber.mike@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br class="">
>><br class="">
>> Nishal +1<br class="">
>><br class="">
>> Maybe a hypothetical if I may: what if a former Chairperson were<br class="">
>> to pass, or to be unable or unwilling to serve on the CoE, or even<br class="">
>> if they were to be convicted of an offense after their term that<br class="">
>> would disqualify them as a director.<br class="">
>><br class="">
>> I don't think the community would want an unable or unwilling CoE<br class="">
>> member, or a convict.<br class="">
>><br class="">
>><br class="">
>> No community would. We want them because of their experience as<br class="">
>> former Chairs<br class="">
>> I read the 'open to' in 16.1 as former chairs are willing to consider<br class="">
>> or be considered. So some might decline or be denied<br class="">
>><br class="">
>><br class="">
>> So I cannot see how automatic appointment could be implied.<br class="">
>><br class="">
>><br class="">
>> This is what bothers me. We don't yet have 6 past chairs and we are<br class="">
>> discriminating without reason on appointment to CoE? How does this<br class="">
>> improve trust?<br class="">
><br class="">
> Omo,<br class="">
><br class="">
> You are claiming facts not in evidence.<br class="">
><br class="">
> The board chair clearly stated that the matter has not yet been<br class="">
> considered by the board. This is not discrimination, it is a lack of<br class="">
> action in either direction, positive or negative. He further noted that<br class="">
> it will be on the agenda at the next board meeting.<br class="">
><br class="">
> Claiming discrimination when there clearly isn’t any such thing going on<br class="">
> is nonsensical.<br class="">
><br class="">
> Finally, appointment to the CoE is at the discretion of the board. They<br class="">
> are free to invite a past chair or not entirely at their discretion and<br class="">
> nothing requires them to explain their reasoning to the community. If<br class="">
> you don’t like their decision, vote for different board members next<br class="">
> time there is an election.<br class="">
><br class="">
> Personally, given the manner in which Badru stepped down from the<br class="">
> chairmanship and the subsequent incidents leading to his departure from<br class="">
> the board, I would say that the board has more than ample reason if they<br class="">
> choose not to invite him to join the CoE. However, I respect that this<br class="">
> is a decision entirely at their discretion and I will accept whatever<br class="">
> decision they make.<br class="">
><br class="">
> The purpose of the CoE is to advise the board. The board must be free to<br class="">
> choose who it does or does not want to receive advice from.<br class="">
><br class="">
> Owen<br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
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