<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">+1 Mark. This clarification was indeed necessary. </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 5:54 PM, Mark Elkins <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mje@posix.co.za" target="_blank">mje@posix.co.za</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Badru stopped being the Chair of AFRINIC at the last Mauritius meeting.<br>
<br>
Badru left the Board over a year ago in Tunisia. He resigned after the<br>
Board had an impromptu meeting on stage during the meeting.<br>
I believe that one can guess he was asked to resign by the Board.<br>
<br>
There were a number of ugly words exchanged at that meeting and if you<br>
were present at that meeting, I believe that you would have got the idea<br>
that there was bad blood between various parties.<br>
<br>
I was on the Board at that time. Personally, I would not have agreed to<br>
having Badru in the honourably position of being a community elder (as<br>
such, CoE).<br>
<br>
Any Board Member who steps down and who causes such disarray and<br>
hostility should expect to be kept at a distance. Please, I'm not trying<br>
to pick on Badru, but on the situation and actions at the time. It would<br>
not be rational to then honour such a past Chairperson with a seat on<br>
the CoE.<br>
<span><br>
On 13/07/2016 09:40, Owen DeLong wrote:<br>
><br>
>> On Jul 12, 2016, at 22:01 , Omo Oaiya <<a href="mailto:Omo.Oaiya@wacren.net">Omo.Oaiya@wacren.net</a><br>
</span><span>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:Omo.Oaiya@wacren.net">Omo.Oaiya@wacren.net</a>>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On 12 July 2016 at 21:03, Mike Silber <<a href="mailto:silber.mike@gmail.com">silber.mike@gmail.com</a><br>
</span><div><div class="h5">>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:silber.mike@gmail.com">silber.mike@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Nishal +1<br>
>><br>
>> Maybe a hypothetical if I may: what if a former Chairperson were<br>
>> to pass, or to be unable or unwilling to serve on the CoE, or even<br>
>> if they were to be convicted of an offense after their term that<br>
>> would disqualify them as a director.<br>
>><br>
>> I don't think the community would want an unable or unwilling CoE<br>
>> member, or a convict.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> No community would. We want them because of their experience as<br>
>> former Chairs<br>
>> I read the 'open to' in 16.1 as former chairs are willing to consider<br>
>> or be considered. So some might decline or be denied<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> So I cannot see how automatic appointment could be implied.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> This is what bothers me. We don't yet have 6 past chairs and we are<br>
>> discriminating without reason on appointment to CoE? How does this<br>
>> improve trust?<br>
><br>
> Omo,<br>
><br>
> You are claiming facts not in evidence.<br>
><br>
> The board chair clearly stated that the matter has not yet been<br>
> considered by the board. This is not discrimination, it is a lack of<br>
> action in either direction, positive or negative. He further noted that<br>
> it will be on the agenda at the next board meeting.<br>
><br>
> Claiming discrimination when there clearly isn’t any such thing going on<br>
> is nonsensical.<br>
><br>
> Finally, appointment to the CoE is at the discretion of the board. They<br>
> are free to invite a past chair or not entirely at their discretion and<br>
> nothing requires them to explain their reasoning to the community. If<br>
> you don’t like their decision, vote for different board members next<br>
> time there is an election.<br>
><br>
> Personally, given the manner in which Badru stepped down from the<br>
> chairmanship and the subsequent incidents leading to his departure from<br>
> the board, I would say that the board has more than ample reason if they<br>
> choose not to invite him to join the CoE. However, I respect that this<br>
> is a decision entirely at their discretion and I will accept whatever<br>
> decision they make.<br>
><br>
> The purpose of the CoE is to advise the board. The board must be free to<br>
> choose who it does or does not want to receive advice from.<br>
><br>
> Owen<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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