<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Hello Andrew,<br><br></div>The question about community comsultation and getting agreement.<br></div>It is obvious that this Bylaws change is special as it follows the accountability review to meet the new context.<br><br></div>Regards.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 7:47 PM, Andrew Alston <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com" target="_blank">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Hi Noah,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Irrespective of the community consultation however, any changes still have to follow the process as defined by the bylaws. There is no legal way to change the bylaws without following
the bylaws. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Basically, consult the community, get agreement, then members vote. If the members agree with the wider community, it passes, if they don’t, it won’t pass. If you wanted to change the
process, you’d have to change the bylaws first, using the bylaw process. It’s a restriction however unfortunate, but it is the reality.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Andrew<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">From: </span>
</b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">Noah <<a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz" target="_blank">noah@neo.co.tz</a>><span class=""><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>General Discussions of AFRINIC <<a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net" target="_blank">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a>><br>
</span><b>Date: </b>Thursday, 16 June 2016 at 9:41 PM<span class=""><br>
<b>To: </b>General Discussions of AFRINIC <<a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net" target="_blank">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
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On 16 Jun 2016 21:19, "Andrew Alston" <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com" target="_blank">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Writing as myself,<br>
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> Without answering for Alan, and purely writing this because to my knowledge the only attempt at a bylaw change under the current bylaws was made by myself in Tunis,<br>
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> My understanding (and using the process that I used last time to propose and attempt bylaw changes, and following the bylaws as they stand)<br>
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> a.) Someone proposes a bylaw change (They must be a member, section 12.14.ii)<br>
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> b.) It goes out with the notice of meeting at either an SGMM or an AGMM (Section 12.14.iii -> Section 12.14.iv)<br>
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> c.) The motion that goes out with the notice of SGMM/AGMM may NOT be changed on the floor – it may be discussed but it is fixed other than for potential typo corrections etc (This is derived from section 12.14 as well, since you are voting on what has
been sent to the members)<br>
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> d.) A ballot is called on the floor in the same way an election ballot is called – members can vote, via the same means as an election ballot (electronically, by proxy, or directly) (Section 12.11 applies, since it is a special resolution as per section
7.6 vi)<br>
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> e.) Vote requires a 75% majority to pass or the motion fails (Definition section, 1.1, under the definition of special resolution)<br>
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<p>Unfortunately all the above are limited to the current bylaws.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>Thereby requiring a different community oriented process.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>Hence my question is specifically about current ongoing process which is seeking over all community consultation and not members only.<u></u><u></u></p>
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> Thanks<br>
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> Andrew<br>
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<p>Cheers<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>Noah<u></u><u></u></p>
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