[Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Congratulations to the new Chair & Vice-Chair of AFRINIC

[Noah]

Andrew,

On Wed, 8 Jun 2022, 13:48 Andrew Alston, <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>
wrote:

> On the contrary Noah,
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>
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> No one is “throwing shade” – we are asking the board to confirm that the
> process was correctly followed. Which, considering the events of the AGMM
> and the blatant violations of the bylaws that occurred there – is a very
> fair question to ask.
>

I am certain the CEO and the board have read your fair questions and
without doubt they shall respond, however, the claims of lack of quorum by
some is what I was referring to in respect to the bylaws which I attempted
to explain and Mark Elkins did us a service to paste the said section for
the doubtful thomas's among us.

>
>
> And – if you dispute there were blatant violations of the bylaws in the
> context of the AGMM – Please, let me know – I will quote you chapter and
> verse as to exactly where they happened.
>

This is something else, so let us not mix things up.

Noah

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> Andrew
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> *From:* Noah <noah at neo.co.tz>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 8, 2022 1:39 PM
> *To:* Mark Elkins <mje at posix.co.za>
> *Cc:* AFRINIC Community Discuss <community-discuss at afrinic.net>; AfriNIC
> Discuss <members-discuss at afrinic.net>; Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [members-discuss] [Community-Discuss] Congratulations to
> the new Chair & Vice-Chair of AFRINIC
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> Hi Mark
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> This is exactly what I was educating someone on a separate thread on
> members list but it seems we are a point where throwing shades at the board
> at any chance some folks get, is a thing now.
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>
> Noah
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> On Wed, 8 Jun 2022, 13:16 Mark Elkins, <mje at posix.co.za> wrote:
>
> Just so that people are clear... Page 30 of the AfriNIC Bylaws.... image
> cut from the PDF.
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> Thus if there are at least three Board Members, if one leaves the room -
> the last two can call a meeting, see that there is no quorum, send notice
> to the third, adjourn the meeting and then after at least 24 hours, conduct
> a meeting in quorum assuming then that there are at least three Board
> members. If this happens - it must be minuted.
>
> On 6/8/22 6:36 AM, Andrew Alston via Community-Discuss wrote:
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> Hi Owen,
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> Well - it depends.  If a non-quorate meeting was called and then adjourned
> for 24 hours and reconvened they would gain quorum under the bylaws.
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> The question becomes - and this is where I am uncertain and believe it is
> open to debate - can a meeting be called knowing full well that quorum
> cannot be there and then adjourned for 24 hours to gain quorum - thereby
> deliberately exploiting a loophole.  It is one thing to call a meeting
> thinking you would have quorum - not getting it - adjourning for 24 hours
> and then gaining quorum after giving notice to the absent directors.  It is
> another thing entirely to call a meeting knowing full well quorum could not
> be met and having no one to give notice to.
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> Either way at bare minimum a meeting would have had to be called -
> adjourned 24 hours - and then reconvened to be quorate.  This would have to
> be minuted.  The board has been silent on if this process was followed
> despite members asking the question.  Once again we face a situation where
> this organization is not answering legitimate questions from its members -
> and to me that is even more troublesome than the quorum issue.
>
>
>
> Furthermore - last I checked the board of directors page online had
> updated the chair and vice chair but was still showing the old directors
> listed as current - why has that not been updated to show the vacant seats
> accordingly
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> Andrew
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> *From:* Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss <community-discuss at afrinic.net>
> <community-discuss at afrinic.net>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 8, 2022 12:54:52 AM
> *To:* Ish Sookun <ish.sookun at lasentinelle.mu> <ish.sookun at lasentinelle.mu>
> *Cc:* AFRINIC Community Discuss <community-discuss at afrinic.net>
> <community-discuss at afrinic.net>; AfriNIC Discuss
> <members-discuss at afrinic.net> <members-discuss at afrinic.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Community-Discuss] Congratulations to the new Chair &
> Vice-Chair of AFRINIC
>
>
>
> How did the board hold a meeting given that they cannot field a quorum
> after the AGMM?
>
> Owen
>
>
> > On Jun 7, 2022, at 00:15 , Ish Sookun <ish.sookun at lasentinelle.mu>
> <ish.sookun at lasentinelle.mu> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Mr. Eshun & Dr. Omari,
> >
> > I congratulate both of you for your appointment as Chairman and
> Vice-Chairman of AFRINIC respectively.
> > I wish you all the best and hope you will be able to navigate the
> organisation through the rough waters.
> >
> > I also thank SM for his time, guidance and leadership.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > ———
> >
> > Ish Sookun
> >
> > Systems Architect @ La Sentinelle Ltd
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