From rfg at tristatelogic.com Fri Jul 1 09:34:04 2022 From: rfg at tristatelogic.com (Ronald F. Guilmette) Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2022 02:34:04 -0700 Subject: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Formal mediation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <81260.1656668044@segfault.tristatelogic.com> In message , Ben Roberts wrote: >It is possible to postulate that AFRINIC threw the first punch buy revoking >membership and resource holdings of members who relied upon those resources >for their business. As I understand it, the purpose of AFRINIC mailing lists is NOT to conduct personal boxing matches. Anyone wishing to do that, please take it offline. The rest of us think it is stupid and a waste of our time, especially when it is based on really obvious bovine excrement. Regards, rfg From rfg at tristatelogic.com Fri Jul 1 09:45:39 2022 From: rfg at tristatelogic.com (Ronald F. Guilmette) Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2022 02:45:39 -0700 Subject: [Community-Discuss] Most disastrous distraction In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <81383.1656668739@segfault.tristatelogic.com> In message Paul Hjul wrote: >As a >result of these steps it was reliably indicated to me that at least one >litigating party had decided to again present court sanctioned mediation as >something they were willing to engage in. Predictably as soon as the >suggestion of the opportunity to get the organization functioning in a >proper and rule driven manner was made a predictable chorus of individuals >who try to control the organization and who patently would rather see >Afrinic destroyed than not under their control piped up. I suggeted mediation on this list as a possible solution ahwile ago. Now I wish that I had not done so. It is a Bad Idea. It would just be a way for some people to obtain, as we say here "half a loaf" when IN FAIRNESS they deserve nothing at all. Regards, rfg P.S. I have no vested interests in who runs AFRINIC. It doesn't matter to me *financially* at all. As a matter of general principal however I believe that AFRINIC should be run by a cooperating group of Africans, and not by some single Chinese guy who clearly has more money (and more lawyers) than he has either brains or ethics or transparency. From mark at tinka.africa Sun Jul 3 16:47:19 2022 From: mark at tinka.africa (Mark Tinka) Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2022 18:47:19 +0200 Subject: [Community-Discuss] SAFNOG-7: Call for Papers Announcement Message-ID: <5a2e1324-767f-369e-2c67-278844ad0e4e@tinka.africa> Hello all. The CfP (Call for Papers) for the SAFNOG-7 conference, due to take place in-person on the 30th - 31st August, 2022, at the Lagoon Beach Hotel in Cape Town, South Africa, is now open. Please find more details about the CfP at the link below: https://safnog.org/event/papers.html We look forward to receiving your submissions, and to seeing you in Cape Town soon. Thanks. 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I find it unfortunately necessary that I > must send out this email. > > > I will not defend myself from the allegations made against me. Anyone who > knows me, the history of my country, and my upbringing would know that I > can never and would never support any call for tribalism or xenophobia. I > know that even those who made such allegations against me are aware of how > beneath them these tactics are. > > > I will however use this opportunity to remind all, myself included, that > hate is never the answer. Destroying bridges will always be easier than > building them. Attempts to divide and concur us Africans are as old as time > itself. Unfortunately, these calls sometimes come from within and not from > abroad. > > > AFRINIC was established as an entity that should unite us as a continent > and build a community of like-minded people that care about the development > of their land and does not focus on our differences, but rather take > advantage of the robustness of our diversity and the strength in our > numbers and unity. > > > I hope you, like me, see what really is at stake here. > > > Regards, > > Eddy > > > _______________________________________________ > Community-Discuss mailing list > Community-Discuss at afrinic.net > https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss > -- Website ,?Weekly Bulletin ?UGPortal PGPortal ?HelpDesk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Robert Ford Independent ICT Consultant EAC ONA & Tech Investments +250 788504406 Twitter: @robertnford Skype: robert4dd Sent from my MacBook Air 13? > On 28 Jun 2022, at 14:52, Eddy Kayihura > wrote: > > Dear All, > > I have been following the discussions on the AFRINIC members-discuss and community-discuss mailing lists. I find it unfortunately necessary that I must send out this email. > > I will not defend myself from the allegations made against me. Anyone who knows me, the history of my country, and my upbringing would know that I can never and would never support any call for tribalism or xenophobia. I know that even those who made such allegations against me are aware of how beneath them these tactics are. > > I will however use this opportunity to remind all, myself included, that hate is never the answer. Destroying bridges will always be easier than building them. Attempts to divide and concur us Africans are as old as time itself. Unfortunately, these calls sometimes come from within and not from abroad. > > AFRINIC was established as an entity that should unite us as a continent and build a community of like-minded people that care about the development of their land and does not focus on our differences, but rather take advantage of the robustness of our diversity and the strength in our numbers and unity. > > I hope you, like me, see what really is at stake here. > > Regards, > > Eddy > > > _______________________________________________ > Community-Discuss mailing list > Community-Discuss at afrinic.net > https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fall at isoc.org Wed Jul 20 18:01:59 2022 From: fall at isoc.org (Gaelle Fall) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2022 18:01:59 +0000 Subject: [Community-Discuss] D-Day -1! West Africa Peering Forum (WAPF), 21 July 2022 // Jour-J -1! Le Forum de Peering de l'Afrique de l'Ouest In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: (Apologies for cross-posting) Dear?All, This is a reminder to please join us on Thursday 21 July 2022 at 14:00 UTC (15:00 WAT) for a virtual conversation on the Impact of Infrastructure Development on Internet Ecosystem in West Africa Region: Contribution of New Submarine Cable and Carrier Neutral Datacenter. Join stakeholders from the region and beyond and learn how to foster the growth of growth of Internet exchange points and how to connect the unconnected and provide high-speed, reliable, and resilient Internet to people at lower costs. 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Why has this case been removed from the AFRINIC website? > > Is Eddy trying to bypass elections to appoint directors of his own? > > Paul > > > > _______________________________________________ > Members-Discuss mailing list > Members-Discuss at afrinic.net > https://protect-za.mimecast.com/s/qHTHC1jqpXCxNgySLqdtA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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IMO to counter fake news, the other party should provide verifiable information. Anything else that is not substantiated and/or has nothing to do with the AFRINIC community, should be flagged as it would certainly breach the afrinic.net/code . Regards, ??? Ish Sookun Systems Architect @ La Sentinelle Ltd > On 28 Jul 2022, at 16:24, Noah wrote: > > Hi Ish, > > I don't think the list is censored, what I recall was an implementation of a necessary moderation inlight of the fake news accusations related to terrorism by one of the community list participants. > > I think that was a right call by AFRINIC management so that fake news can be contained from spreading like wildfire. > > Whatever is not fake news is not moderated and as you can see, I am able to read and respond back to you. > > ./noah > neo - network engineering and operations > > > On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 9:32 AM Ish Sookun > wrote: > Dear Eddy, > > I noticed that certain emails are appearing on the Community Discuss mailing list archive and some emails are not. > > Is the mailing list still being censored? If yes, by whom? > > In your email [1] dated 24 June 2022, you stated that all emails, accepted or rejected will be archived. However, that does not seem to be the case. 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The attached is correspondence addressed by the attorneys acting on behalf of Crystal Web and is now public record. Hopefully it won't be necessary to take further steps but it shouldn't have been necessary for a Court to have to state the obvious fact that the Company does not as a matter of law have a Board. It should also not be necessary to issue a letter warning of contempt proceedings. Sadly it is. Moreover it is hoped that nobody will be fooled into ignoring the court order on some misguided nonsense. Quite simply there is no "but a director told me I could" defense against liability that would arise from ignoring the order that holds that the board is not as a matter of law in existence. It is public knowledge that the Board is not composed and that powers flowing from the Board cannot be exercised. I trust it will be understood that while ordinarily I'd happily comment and engage but under the circumstances the Mauritius attorneys and barristers have to do the talking. 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However, in view of ongoing internal discussions at Afrinic regarding that case, I thought it best to pull down that addition for the time-being but I undertake to come back on the publication as well as all necessary explanations as soon as I can, be it by way of a post or even a webinar. Regards, Eddy > On 20 Jul 2022, at 23:59, Paul Wollner wrote: > > ? > Dear community, > > I am curious about the case 42 (refer to attached image), Eddy vs AFRINIC under company act 136, appointment of directors. Why has this case been removed from the AFRINIC website? > > Is Eddy trying to bypass elections to appoint directors of his own? > > Paul > > > > _______________________________________________ > Members-Discuss mailing list > Members-Discuss at afrinic.net > https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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One of them is involved in fraud proceedings. https://www.lawandpowerkenya.com/interconsult-engineers-ltd-director-six-others-charged-with-fraud/ The RIR community has been running on the principle of community-drive bottom up process for years. This is the foundation of today's Internet. By adhering to this principle, the RIRs have successfully resisted external interference from governmental bodies such as ITU. It is extremely regretful to see that a suspended CEO of one of the RIRs, is trying to ask a governmental body to interfere with RIR's independent procedure. This is putting the entire system at a tremendous risk that we have never had before. The suspended CEO is continually trying to take further legal action in secret. He is spending members money on this. We were lucky to retrieve this letter, from the case Eddy filed against AFRINIC, in an attempt to appoint four directors suggested by ATU as elected directors, in which in that affidavit in the case, Eddy admitted that AFRINIC is lacking of quorum and can not defend its own case, so Eddy is trying to use this opportunities to bypass the very election allows member to have their voice heard. The suspended CEO is acting without authority and in secret and is out of control. The organization is failing. Members have no oversight on what he is doing unilaterally. He is out of control and not acting in the interests of members. We have attached the relevant letters in this email. You may read them yourselves. This is unprecedentedly shocking and disappointing. It is a spectra that the RIRs may fall into the hands of governmental bodies - a scenario that none of us would like to see in the community. NRS team -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It?s quite a large amount, as it nearly equals to the annual salary of 4 Afrinic staff.?Please confirm if the estimated cost below are in fact true:Seat 1 Habib (Tunisia)($3293 = Flight, Hotel = $3677)Seat 2 Emmanuel (Nigeria)($3862 = Flight, Hotel = $3677)Seat 5 Angola Syvio -(Angola)($3454 = Flight, Hotel = $3677)Seat 6 Abdalla (Kenya)($3907 = Flight, Hotel = $3677)Seat 7 Seun (nigeria)($3862 = Flight, Hotel = $3677)Seat 8 Benjamin ?(Ghana)($4913 = Flight, Hotel = $3677)Grand total: $51,353 usdPaul -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Presently, as you are aware, the board has no quorum as such, publication of any finance-related report will be delayed as all financial-related reports are; prior to publication, reviewed by the Finance Committee, the latter being a sub-committee of the board. We, therefore, count on your patience until the publication of the finance report. AFRINIC Communication > On 26 Jul 2022, at 10:07, Paul Wollner wrote: > > Dear AFRINIC, > > I have heard that in yesterday mornings contempt session, all the ex-directors were present and represented by the same lawyer as AFRINIC. Please confirm for the members the following: > > 1. Who paid their travel and legal cost? > 2. The estimated cost amounts to 50000 usd. It?s quite a large amount, as it nearly equals to the annual salary of 4 Afrinic staff. > > Please confirm if the estimated cost below are in fact true: > > Seat 1 Habib (Tunisia) > ($3293 = Flight, Hotel = $3677) > > Seat 2 Emmanuel (Nigeria) > ($3862 = Flight, Hotel = $3677) > > Seat 5 Angola Syvio -(Angola) > ($3454 = Flight, Hotel = $3677) > > Seat 6 Abdalla (Kenya) > ($3907 = Flight, Hotel = $3677) > > Seat 7 Seun (nigeria) > ($3862 = Flight, Hotel = $3677) > > Seat 8 Benjamin (Ghana) > ($4913 = Flight, Hotel = $3677) > > Grand total: $51,353 usd > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > Members-Discuss mailing list > Members-Discuss at afrinic.net > https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss From noah at neo.co.tz Thu Jul 28 12:24:37 2022 From: noah at neo.co.tz (Noah) Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2022 15:24:37 +0300 Subject: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Censorship of Community-discuss In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Ish, I don't think the list is censored, what I recall was an implementation of a necessary moderation inlight of the fake news accusations related to terrorism by one of the community list participants. I think that was a right call by AFRINIC management so that fake news can be contained from spreading like wildfire. Whatever is not fake news is not moderated and as you can see, I am able to read and respond back to you. *./noah* neo - network engineering and operations On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 9:32 AM Ish Sookun wrote: > Dear Eddy, > > I noticed that certain emails are appearing on the Community Discuss > mailing list archive and some emails are not. > > Is the mailing list still being censored? If yes, by whom? > > In your email [1] dated 24 June 2022, you stated that all emails, accepted > or rejected will be archived. However, that does not seem to be the case. > Is there an explanation? > > Regards, > > ??? > > Ish Sookun > > Systems Architect @ La Sentinelle Ltd > > [1] > https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2022-June/005421.html > _______________________________________________ > Members-Discuss mailing list > Members-Discuss at afrinic.net > https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: