[Community-Discuss] Share About Cloud Innovation Ltd and their business

Meriem Dayday meriemdayday at gmail.com
Sun Jul 25 15:53:45 UTC 2021


This is a direct violation of the CoC.

Disclosing such information and data without the company’s consent is a
clear attempt of defamation and can have legal consequences on the
concerned person.

Having a business or other relationship with the said company does not give
you the right to divulge such details on a public mailing list. That is
quite appalling.

Please refrain from violating the CoC and attacking entities in such
manner. It can only be troublesome.

I am urging the PDWG chairs to act immediately by sanctioning the sender
and deleting this delicate email from the list.


Le dim. 25 juil. 2021 à 15:39, Leo S <leoso at afcast.com> a écrit :

> About Cloud Innovation Ltd I want to talk about their business model.


> They got 7 Million IPv4 addresses from AFRINIC at a price of $10,000 USD

> per year, and then leased them to ISPs or end users at a price of ~2

> USD/year/IPv4 (large block in 2018 if Small block may be more expensive

> maybe $3 USD) and with an annual increase of 15% fee from the price


> So the cost is $10,000 USD


> Revenue is 7M x 2 = 14 Million


> so it’s 150000% profit


> Part of the cost is spent on RIR community activities and seeking support

> from members, and money will be used to defeat those who oppose it.


> Are there any people in the world who don't love money? Those who accept

> their money will support them in the community. and questioned any action

> of discussion that would be detrimental to them.


> Of course, this is Lu Heng.


> He also plundered tens of thousands of IP addresses from RIPE and A few

> years later sold to vodafone and earned millions of dollars. He is smart

> and knows who should pay the money to.



> To rent an IP address from Cloud Innovation Ltd, you do not need to use

> their network services and circuits. Exactly they don't provide network

> service. and I think 90% of IP addresses are used in North America and Asia



> I don't know much about AFRINIC's policy. But in ARIN you must have a

> circuit or network service then you can rent an IP address from the

> provider.


> The AFRINIC internal audit action may be detrimental to Cloud Innovation

> Ltd, so they started some network services in South Africa last year as

> Africa on cloud. but it's a small network. I think the revenue from these

> services may account for less than 10% of their revenue. so 90% of their

> revenue still from IPv4 address leasing business


> It can be seen from their income that they have enough money to support

> the lawsuit against AFRINIC. And spend money in the community to fight for

> their address not to be revoked.


> very sad AFRINIC is too poor


> By the way, I was also their customer before





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