[Community-Discuss] Share About Cloud Innovation Ltd and their business

[DANIEL NANGHAKA]

Some community members want to kill AFRINIC.
These members do not have passion for AFRICA as a region and are against
AFRICA internet and technology development.

On Sun, Jul 25, 2021, 6:33 PM Erick Joshua Lagon <erickj.lagon at gmail.com>
wrote:


> To all,

>

> This is clearly a personal attack and defamation which holds no relevance

> to the real issue at hand. I encourage the Board to take down this post

> because we cannot achieve anything by posting ad hominem arguments. We

> should be addressing issues for the sake of the community and not attack

> anyone else here.

>

> Regards,

> Erick

>

> On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 10:39 PM Leo S <leoso at afcast.com> wrote:

>

>> About Cloud Innovation Ltd I want to talk about their business model.

>>

>> They got 7 Million IPv4 addresses from AFRINIC at a price of $10,000 USD

>> per year, and then leased them to ISPs or end users at a price of ~2

>> USD/year/IPv4 (large block in 2018 if Small block may be more expensive

>> maybe $3 USD) and with an annual increase of 15% fee from the price

>>

>> So the cost is $10,000 USD

>>

>> Revenue is 7M x 2 = 14 Million

>>

>> so it’s 150000% profit

>>

>> Part of the cost is spent on RIR community activities and seeking support

>> from members, and money will be used to defeat those who oppose it.

>>

>> Are there any people in the world who don't love money? Those who accept

>> their money will support them in the community. and questioned any action

>> of discussion that would be detrimental to them.

>>

>> Of course, this is Lu Heng.

>>

>> He also plundered tens of thousands of IP addresses from RIPE and A few

>> years later sold to vodafone and earned millions of dollars. He is smart

>> and knows who should pay the money to.

>>

>>

>> To rent an IP address from Cloud Innovation Ltd, you do not need to use

>> their network services and circuits. Exactly they don't provide network

>> service. and I think 90% of IP addresses are used in North America and Asia

>>

>>

>> I don't know much about AFRINIC's policy. But in ARIN you must have a

>> circuit or network service then you can rent an IP address from the

>> provider.

>>

>> The AFRINIC internal audit action may be detrimental to Cloud Innovation

>> Ltd, so they started some network services in South Africa last year as

>> Africa on cloud. but it's a small network. I think the revenue from these

>> services may account for less than 10% of their revenue. so 90% of their

>> revenue still from IPv4 address leasing business

>>

>> It can be seen from their income that they have enough money to support

>> the lawsuit against AFRINIC. And spend money in the community to fight for

>> their address not to be revoked.

>>

>> very sad AFRINIC is too poor

>>

>> By the way, I was also their customer before

>>

>>

>>

>>

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